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Old Mar 20, 2015 | 12:59 AM
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bad tranny

hey guys,

just bought my e99 f250 in January tested it and everything everything drove fine tranny shifted fine..

so i decided to put a new paint job wheels and more.

just got the truck back yesterday and bam today tranny problems.

most likely fried clutch.

now what should i do?

rebuild:
i live in Aruba, dont know if there is a trust worthy mechanic who is able to rebuild the tranny in aruba..

buy used tranny?

buy a rebuild tranny?

sell the truck for cheap adter investing almost 10k in it?

kinda upset with this truck
 
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Old Mar 20, 2015 | 03:20 AM
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What are your symptoms? Have you dropped the pan and checked for foreign matter? Like clutch material, band material, or bearing failure? B.
 
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Old Mar 20, 2015 | 04:36 AM
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You said bad clutch ? Manual or Automatic, 2 wheel drive or 4 wheel drive - and like previous post - what symptoms?
 
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Old Mar 20, 2015 | 06:36 AM
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clutch plates i meant

it was driving fine and all of the sudden it wasnt moving anymore..

it would only go into reverse.

i chaged the filter and it start moving for a couple of seconds but then it would stop like it was slipping

the magnet in the pan pasa pretty dirty with some thick paste of dirt
 
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Old Mar 20, 2015 | 07:00 AM
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Yep, you are in need of a rebuild. If you put $10K into it you really need to get it fixed. It's worth far more to you running than to someone else broken down.
 
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Old Mar 20, 2015 | 07:21 AM
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should i buy e rebuild kit and let them rebuild it here?

i am in aruba not able to send the tranny to the US

also the guy told me if he rebuilt it would stay with stock HP
 
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Old Mar 20, 2015 | 07:24 AM
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Old Mar 20, 2015 | 08:38 AM
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I am guessing you are not doing the work yourself ? if it were me that Transmission would be all over the garage fl;oor in pieces by now - Just saying - However The 99 4R100 is a simpler transmission than the newer ones - beefy tho.

As for the symptoms - it sounds like one of a few things
1. seals inside the transmission let go - where there is an internal leak normally these come on slow and tend to be worse when cold and get better when warm - mainly the first symptoms are crazy shift characteristics, things like taking a long time to make a shift.

2. the pump or pressure regulator is failing, pumps tend to go slowly and will make you think the transmission is just not right, you will swear it is in gear but the motor seems to be just a bit faster, shifts can get funky as well. The regulator will stick or a spring fatigue inside and those seem to go faster. - There are some pressure ports on the side of the transmission where some test gear can be hooked up and you can read the pressure.

3. There may be something stuck in the Valve body - I doubt a few weeks in the paint shop would do it but often when a truck sits over some time things gel up.

Do a search online for Ford 4R100 tests or diagnostics and you should find some shade tree diag methods that do not require special tools.


Here in the states I can get that rebuild kit for around 300.00 plus a pump, torque converter and valve body kit for an estimated total of 800.00 or so in parts, a local shop will rebuild it for around 2200.00 so all in all not a bad deal - I am guessing this whole cluster in the island will run you about 4500, and you will have a total of 14,500.00 in the truck - so survivable
 
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Old Mar 20, 2015 | 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by kellyk7
I am guessing you are not doing the work yourself ? if it were me that Transmission would be all over the garage fl;oor in pieces by now - Just saying - However The 99 4R100 is a simpler transmission than the newer ones - beefy tho.

As for the symptoms - it sounds like one of a few things
1. seals inside the transmission let go - where there is an internal leak normally these come on slow and tend to be worse when cold and get better when warm - mainly the first symptoms are crazy shift characteristics, things like taking a long time to make a shift.

2. the pump or pressure regulator is failing, pumps tend to go slowly and will make you think the transmission is just not right, you will swear it is in gear but the motor seems to be just a bit faster, shifts can get funky as well. The regulator will stick or a spring fatigue inside and those seem to go faster. - There are some pressure ports on the side of the transmission where some test gear can be hooked up and you can read the pressure.

3. There may be something stuck in the Valve body - I doubt a few weeks in the paint shop would do it but often when a truck sits over some time things gel up.

Do a search online for Ford 4R100 tests or diagnostics and you should find some shade tree diag methods that do not require special tools.


Here in the states I can get that rebuild kit for around 300.00 plus a pump, torque converter and valve body kit for an estimated total of 800.00 or so in parts, a local shop will rebuild it for around 2200.00 so all in all not a bad deal - I am guessing this whole cluster in the island will run you about 4500, and you will have a total of 14,500.00 in the truck - so survivable

so should i do e rebuild locally?

last night i took of the oil pan and the stuff underneath to get to the feed bolts they told me to check that first.... but those where torqued fine,,,they didnt told me that there we're like 10 pressure bolts (small steel *****) or whatever you wanna call it.... and now i do not know where they need to go

 
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Old Mar 20, 2015 | 11:30 AM
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Do a youtube search on 4R100s. Look for a video CD on how to rebuild one. The CD will at least show you where the check ***** go in the valve body. After viewing the rebuild CD then you can decide if its something you want to tackle. Note there is some special tools needed and they should be shown in the video. Your other option if you cant find a reputable trans shop in Aruba (Jealous as hell by the way) is to order and ship a reman unit to your door step if that's feasible? The Reman will have a warranty. Do not attempt to reuse the converter. Flush out the trans cooler and lines too.
Any auto junk yards there? You could maybe find a good used unit? Install that so you can drive the truck and have the original to disect and rebuild at your leasure. Its a better way to learn when your not under the gun to get it running.
Side note always used the correct specified fluid. Install the converter correctly and change the fluid and filter in the new trans after a few thousand miles. Then at or before the recommended interval stated in the owners manual(I do mine at 25-30K in all my vehicles...cheap insurance).
 
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Old Mar 20, 2015 | 11:59 AM
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Your close to Venezuela so maybe try and find a shop there? If you removed the valve body then yes, those check ***** need to go back into the right place for sure. If the pan had debris inside of it you are most likely looking at a rebuild. Get ahold of Silverfox at clickclickracing.com and I'm sure he can put together a kit for you. Here's his site. Home


I have bought stuff from him before and you really can't beat his pricing.


By the way, nice rig you have there. Keep her and get the trans fixed and enjoy. B.
 
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Old Mar 20, 2015 | 04:16 PM
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Whats the function of the small blackbox connected to the shifter next to the tranny?
 
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Old Mar 20, 2015 | 04:42 PM
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Whats the function of the small blackbox connected to the shifter next to the tranny?
I believe that's the neutral safety switch. That prevents the engine from starting unless it's in neutral or park.
 
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Old Mar 20, 2015 | 05:32 PM
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Ok gonna see some youtube

Is it hard or dificultto remove the transmission? How bout to reinstall it
 
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Old Mar 20, 2015 | 08:34 PM
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Not really hard, just heavy. If you are going to do it on your back it is best to drop the transfer case from the transmission before you remove the trans. B.
 
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