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Old Mar 15, 2015 | 04:49 PM
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I was removing the starter and the 15mm nut that holds the larger cable to the solenoid spun the bolt out of the solenoid housing.

I see solenoids for sale but would I be better off with a whole new starter? If so which ones are recommended? OEM or are aftermarket ones ok?
 
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Old Mar 15, 2015 | 05:04 PM
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Some aftermarket are good some are not. Same goes for the solenoids.
Myself I stay away from Autozone or Advance never had much luck with their electrical stuff.
 

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Old Mar 15, 2015 | 05:12 PM
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Heard a few good reviews and made a note on this one. Think I'll give it a shot if I need one.

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Napa #449301 $159.00.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2015 | 05:18 PM
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A gear reduction starter or just ask for a 6.4 starter.

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Old Mar 15, 2015 | 05:38 PM
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This is the pic that comes up for that unit on the NAPA site.



The armature appears to be offset from the drive, which would indicate its a gear drive unit. The smaller diameter of the motor would seem to indicate its a permanent magnet type.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2015 | 08:11 PM
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What is the difference between the reduction gear 6.0 starter and the 6.4 starter? Does the 6.0 reduction gear starter perform like the 6.4 starter?
 
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Old Mar 15, 2015 | 08:20 PM
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I believe the 6.4 starter is a gear drive unit also. Maybe the ratio's are different between the Napa and the 6.4 starter? There's no real info available that I can find. The factory 6.0 starter is direct drive with an electro magnetic motor. I'm sure either of these units will do a good job for you.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2015 | 08:23 PM
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A gear reduction starter or just ask for a 6.4 starter.

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Josh would you mind elaborating on the differences in starters? Would the 6.4 be an upgrade and what year models accept that change? Thanks.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2015 | 08:30 PM
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Josh would you mind elaborating on the differences in starters? Would the 6.4 be an upgrade and what year models accept that change? Thanks.
From what have read this evening is that the 6.4 starter will bolt right in on a 2003-2007 6.0 with no modifications at all. It seems the 6.0 starter turns the motor at aprox 150 rpm and the 6.4 starter turns the motor at aprox. 220 rpm. In the videos I have watched it made a significant difference in turn over and starting speed.

That is all I know and it is all from the internet so it has to be true! LOL




IIRC those videos are from a discussion on the org. People have said it is the best upgrade they have ever done but I am not sure what the upgrade or benefit is other than turning over faster. Does tunring over faster help or hurt the motor in any way? IDK.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2015 | 08:49 PM
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Faster rpm equals more High Pressure Oil pressure which means better initial firing the injectors which means better easier starting. It's a marginal difference in rom but still, probably fires off quicker. Especially helpful in colder climates.
 
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Not sure what the exact differences are besides the drive end: From Advance Auto

6.0 Gear Reduction part number 6670 $128
6.4 Standard starter part number 6675 $244

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Old Mar 15, 2015 | 10:08 PM
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Subscribing, I sure like the 6.4 starter in the 6.0 Vid . Thanks for the Video and Thanks Josh for the Price brake down with part numbers .
 
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Old Mar 16, 2015 | 05:39 AM
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I am going to NAPA today and will get either the 6.4 or the gear reduction 6.0, whichever is in stock. This was I caan easily return it under warranty if need be. I toyed with the idea of getting one online or a used unit off ebay but in the event it needs to be returned it becomes a drawnout process when you add shipping.
 
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Old Mar 16, 2015 | 08:00 AM
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I ordered the starter Rusty linked. It will be here tomorrow morning. The only 6.4 starter they listed was 100 bucks more and would take longer to get.

I am going to eat the 27 dollar core charge, buy a solenoid and keep the old starter as a spare. A spare starter for 50 bucks, not too bad.
 
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Old Mar 20, 2015 | 11:16 AM
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I installed the new starter this morning. Wow! What a difference. It turns the truck over much faster than the old one. They are both gear reduction but I am guessing the old one was a bit tired.

It does not turn over as fast the the 6.4 starters I have seen in videos but it is fast enough for me.

Thanks for the suggestions all!
 
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