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Old Mar 10, 2015 | 01:00 PM
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The only thing those bottles of Lucas are doing is thickening your oil. That's essentially all they are is a thickener. Cold temps + extra thick oil = nothing good


If your like me and don't have a spare $50+ to blow on another 3 gallons of oil, Id just drain 2 quarts and pour some HSS in it. By the time its said and done, youd have over $150 in two oil changes a couple days apart. No doubt the better option is to drain and restart though, but that's up to you and your wallet
 
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Old Mar 10, 2015 | 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by El Camino Man
The only thing those bottles of Lucas are doing is thickening your oil. That's essentially all they are is a thickener. Cold temps + extra thick oil = nothing good


If your like me and don't have a spare $50+ to blow on another 3 gallons of oil, Id just drain 2 quarts and pour some HSS in it. By the time its said and done, youd have over $150 in two oil changes a couple days apart. No doubt the better option is to drain and restart though, but that's up to you and your wallet
Yea ur right. Thanks , I think I will let it run till I get back from Vac. Which will have close to 2,000 miles on it by then. Then drain it put new filter and the HSS
 
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Old Mar 10, 2015 | 01:13 PM
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That's using your head! Lol. That way youll at least have 2000 miles on the "old" oil and not 2000 miles on your brand new oil
 
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Old Mar 10, 2015 | 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by El Camino Man
That's using your head! Lol. That way youll at least have 2000 miles on the "old" oil and not 2000 miles on your brand new oil
Kinda what I was thinking. Thanks for the input.
 
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Old Mar 10, 2015 | 11:51 PM
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Before you add anything new other than an oil change.
get a new baseline. When diagnosing a problem.
ONLY do one thing at a time and recheck. If you do two things
and one is good and the other not you only see a zero gain.

So start with new oil and NO other things added. If the problem gets
better or goes away then your done and only out the cost of an oil change.
Then if you have problems still you can try something.


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Old Mar 11, 2015 | 08:50 AM
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Great idea. Thanks.

The more I think about this , I bet it's the two qts of Lucas oil stabilizer that making my truck do this because it seem to have started around have way into the last oil change which is the first time I added the Lucas. It just may straighten it self out with the next oil change with the thinner oil and without the Lucas. They should have said something on the jug about Turbos. Hell there are pics of trucks , big rigs etc etc on the jug. Guess we sometimes learn as we go ... Thanks again for ALL the input. Ill keep y'all posted on the next oil change.
 
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Old Mar 11, 2015 | 09:08 AM
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Y'all go over and read my "Marvel Mystery Oil" thread I started and see what u think ,,, it's under the 6.0 topic just like this one.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2015 | 01:38 AM
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You are going to notice a big difference using Rotella T6. We have had some extremely cold weather in the North East this winter. The T6 is very good for cold weather starts. The only downside is that the oil changes I do in the summer are every 4,000 miles. I tow a fifth wheel and the shear on the synthetic oil causes it to degrade a bit faster than the "Natural" stuff.

I started using 5W-40 in 2010. I never went back. I had a shop who normally does my oil changes (during the winter) decide to put the "recommended" oil in against my specific request. New guy, bad Monday, I don't know...

I drove it about 500 feet and brought it back. Asked what oil was put in, 15W-40 was the answer. My question to them was "What does it say on the work order?"

Rotella T6 5W-40.......

They changed the oil out. The manager asked if there was that much of a difference. I pointed to how far I drove (the other side of the property) before I turned around.

Yes. There is a big difference.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2015 | 03:50 AM
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Originally Posted by egregg57
You are going to notice a big difference using Rotella T6. We have had some extremely cold weather in the North East this winter. The T6 is very good for cold weather starts. The only downside is that the oil changes I do in the summer are every 4,000 miles. I tow a fifth wheel and the shear on the synthetic oil causes it to degrade a bit faster than the "Natural" stuff.

I started using 5W-40 in 2010. I never went back. I had a shop who normally does my oil changes (during the winter) decide to put the "recommended" oil in against my specific request. New guy, bad Monday, I don't know...

I drove it about 500 feet and brought it back. Asked what oil was put in, 15W-40 was the answer. My question to them was "What does it say on the work order?"

Rotella T6 5W-40.......

They changed the oil out. The manager asked if there was that much of a difference. I pointed to how far I drove (the other side of the property) before I turned around.

Yes. There is a big difference.
Very odd. the full synthetic should shear less than the blended.

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Old Mar 15, 2015 | 05:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Yahiko
Very odd. the full synthetic should shear less than the blended.

Sean
In asking multiple questions about that is what I have been told and understood.

Run a search on rotella here on FTE. There is a lot of info on it. Additionally, after long haul towing, ie from NH to IA and back, you begin to notice how the engine runs. I will go 5k plus without an oil change off season with no noticeable difference.

After 4k of towing you can tell. Its time for new oil.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2015 | 11:39 AM
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So you guys are getting our lousy northern weather and colder temps, so you are finding out the hard way about oil needs for the HEUI injectors. This is exactly why I do my own oil changes now. I bought the truck new, first winter used 10w30, then DELO 5w40 synthetic, for 3 years, now using Co-op 0w40 CJ4 rated API full synthetic, ,are in Canada.

EGregg I notice the opposite of what you do, I noticed with both the 15w40 Dino Motorcraft and 10w30 as I got close to the 5000 Km you could detect stiction, rougher running especially if colder outside temps, cold starts. Now I run synthetic because I don't want changes from cold to summer towing using 15w40, but I have never noticed the rough running. 2 years ago I even missed an oil change due to my crazy life and was on a trip pulling and looked down at the odometer and realized I was at 10,000 Km. I wish I had done an oil sample, couldn't tell by how dirty it was, no running issues, no problems.

I am at just under 190,000 km.
 
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Old Mar 19, 2015 | 10:00 AM
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Main power s/b. 12.8 volts I believ that's what they call it. I only have a outlook monitor, no codes to enter.
 
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Old Mar 19, 2015 | 09:07 PM
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I couldn't agree more with hoefer, I live in Minnesota, not much warmer the Canada, Rottela T6 or a synthetic is the only way to go, I switched a number of years ago and you can hear the difference in the way the engine runs if you are in tune with that kind of thing! I run my oil 7500 miles to offset the cost difference. JMO
 
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Old Dec 30, 2015 | 02:44 PM
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Did the addatives fix the issue? I think i am having same issue you were in my Excursion.
 
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Old Jan 3, 2016 | 03:23 PM
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Check out Archiol. Get the oil and fuel treatment. I bet it fixes your problem.
 
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