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Old Feb 16, 2015 | 01:45 PM
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But, if it rattled around in there for a while, it would mess it up. You found it still in the boot... the only the way the piston could have touched it is if the hole in the cylinder head was big enough to allow the boot to enter into the combustion chamber.
 
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Old Feb 16, 2015 | 01:50 PM
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But, if it rattled around in there for a while, it would mess it up. You found it still in the boot... the only the way the piston could have touched it is if the hole in the cylinder head was big enough to allow the boot to enter into the combustion chamber.
I hope the piston didn't touch it, and quite frankly, I'm not sure how that could happen either. I could ask the shop I took it to to try a new spark plug, but they already told me that it could create more problems. I've heard that if the new plug doesn't work then the engine is screwed anyway. Just looking for more clarity if it's out there.
 
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Old Feb 16, 2015 | 01:52 PM
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But, if it rattled around in there for a while, it would mess it up. You found it still in the boot... the only the way the piston could have touched it is if the hole in the cylinder head was big enough to allow the boot to enter into the combustion chamber.
Btw, have you ever heard of a spark plug loosening on it's own and shooting out?
 
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Sure, that can happen. Have you been able to shine a light down into the hole to see what is there? Can you see threads?

I already don't trust the shop you have your truck at. Sure they want to cover their bases and re-work the cylinder head.. I mean if they just fix the one, and next month something happens to your engine, they don't want to be liable for it. You just need a second opinion. Which you should always get.
 
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Old Feb 16, 2015 | 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by SDElwood
Sure, that can happen. Have you been able to shine a light down into the hole to see what is there? Can you see threads?

I already don't trust the shop you have your truck at. Sure they want to cover their bases and re-work the cylinder head.. I mean if they just fix the one, and next month something happens to your engine, they don't want to be liable for it. You just need a second opinion. Which you should always get.
I agree. I want to ask them to simply try installing a spark plug to see what will happen but I honestly don't trust them to do that. The sad part is that I'm going to have to pay to get it towed somewhere else for what could be just a simple spark plug. There was a young stoner looking kid at the shop who supposedly checked to see what the problem was and when I asked him if he saw the spark plug, he had a kinda/sorta attitude lol.

As far as looking into the hole, I haven't done that yet as I didn't have a flashlight and it's sitting in the parking lot of a shop right now.
 
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Old Feb 16, 2015 | 02:30 PM
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It will run on 7.
 
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Old Feb 16, 2015 | 02:36 PM
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It will run on 7.
Will it run healthy on 7? Just curious because it's pretty loud with the coil boot taken out.

Also, not sure if I already said this, but a bit of the porcelain near the electrode is broken off, and am wondering if that's what caused the electrode to bend. I initially posted that it was about -14 degrees here (without wind chill) and my lifted truck was running very rough over every bump, much rougher than usual.
 
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Well a missing plug will tend to make it run rough. The noise is the air escaping from the cylinder. A guy I know drove his wife's Explorer 3 days that way just because he needed the transportation. It's not 'good' for it, but it isn't 'bad' really either. It beats a towing bill.
 
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Old Feb 16, 2015 | 02:41 PM
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Why not invest in a tap, grease it up to keep particles from falling into the cylinder.
If it cleans up easily without much resistance, put a new plug in with some anti seize after cleaning up the grease and be done with it.

Kinda interested in how you counted 8 holes in the manifold, not 4?
 
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Originally Posted by SDElwood
Well a missing plug will tend to make it run rough. The noise is the air escaping from the cylinder. A guy I know drove his wife's Explorer 3 days that way just because he needed the transportation. It's not 'good' for it, but it isn't 'bad' really either. It beats a towing bill.
Ok, good to know, thanks. And btw, thanks so much for all of your helpful replies. This situation could be pretty dire for me and it's good to have educated people to talk to.
 
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Old Feb 16, 2015 | 03:08 PM
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Why not invest in a tap, grease it up to keep particles from falling into the cylinder.
If it cleans up easily without much resistance, put a new plug in with some anti seize after cleaning up the grease and be done with it.

Kinda interested in how you counted 8 holes in the manifold, not 4?
I have an apt. right now and no garage to do it in, but thanks anyway for the advice! As far as the eight holes, this is basically what I saw (I'm not much of a gear head):

 
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Originally Posted by SDElwood
Well a missing plug will tend to make it run rough. The noise is the air escaping from the cylinder. A guy I know drove his wife's Explorer 3 days that way just because he needed the transportation. It's not 'good' for it, but it isn't 'bad' really either. It beats a towing bill.
Would the engine feel bogged down due to low compression?
 
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Ok, good to know, thanks. And btw, thanks so much for all of your helpful replies. This situation could be pretty dire for me and it's good to have educated people to talk to.
You're welcome.
 
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Originally Posted by Jamessmith1
Would the engine feel bogged down due to low compression?
Yep, among some other items too. A bad cat would feel similar, vacuum leaks, not to mention the misfires, resulting from plugs and/or COP's.

Go to Autozone or OReily's, borrow an OBDll reader and if there's more, besides that one cylinder, it likely will show up.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2015 | 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by r2millers
Yep, among some other items too. A bad cat would feel similar, vacuum leaks, not to mention the misfires, resulting from plugs and/or COP's.

Go to Autozone or OReily's, borrow an OBDll reader and if there's more, besides that one cylinder, it likely will show up.
Thanks for the tip!
 
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