RamHorns
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RamHorns
I bought a set of ramhorns off a 56 292 that came out of a F100.
The guy is selling the complete engine and 3 speed for $100. I don't have a place to store it and it was going to be a PITA to go up and get it.
I paid $100 for the ramhorns, I didn't want to go cheap on the guy. He thinks y-blocks are boat anchors and he wasn't even going to advertise it.. A good bead blasting and some paint and they will be good as new. Some pitting, but they are almost 60 years old, and I only paid $100.
If he doesn't sell the engine, he is going to scrap it. If that happens, Im going back and getting the rocker assemblies, valve covers, WP, generator, oil bath, carb, and anything else you guys say is worth saving. The heads are ECZ-C, except for the rockers I didn't think they were any better than my 64 heads.
F100 motor and transmission
The guy is selling the complete engine and 3 speed for $100. I don't have a place to store it and it was going to be a PITA to go up and get it.
I paid $100 for the ramhorns, I didn't want to go cheap on the guy. He thinks y-blocks are boat anchors and he wasn't even going to advertise it.. A good bead blasting and some paint and they will be good as new. Some pitting, but they are almost 60 years old, and I only paid $100.
If he doesn't sell the engine, he is going to scrap it. If that happens, Im going back and getting the rocker assemblies, valve covers, WP, generator, oil bath, carb, and anything else you guys say is worth saving. The heads are ECZ-C, except for the rockers I didn't think they were any better than my 64 heads.
F100 motor and transmission
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From: AKRON ohio
I followed the heads thread and after reading this one I want to chime in again. I'm a fan of the ECZ-C heads, Yes the "G" heads have their advantages, you need to purchase a December 1956 Hot Rod Magazine. This is from back in the day and tells all about how they got 300 HP out of a y block with ecz-C heads. Look on ebay there are less expensive auctions going on but here is the first one I found
http://www.ebay.com/itm/December-1956-Hot-Rod-TV-Goes-Roddin-Jersey-Jewel-Milking-Build-a-Windsor-Merc-/370261934738?pt=Magazines&hash=item563554c292
YES the "C" heads are better than the c1te heads, I would get the heads, they are only going to be harder to find in the future
http://www.ebay.com/itm/December-1956-Hot-Rod-TV-Goes-Roddin-Jersey-Jewel-Milking-Build-a-Windsor-Merc-/370261934738?pt=Magazines&hash=item563554c292
YES the "C" heads are better than the c1te heads, I would get the heads, they are only going to be harder to find in the future
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The whole 272 is worth saving. 272s are great because they can usually be bored to 292 so there is lot's of life in them as long as there are no serious problems. I know someone who I am pretty sure would want the block. I can verify and get you in contact and if a deal is made, I'm sure we can arrange delivery.
The C heads are good heads, absolutely worth saving. If you want to sell the heads, it is very likely I can help you find someone who wants them and I may be able to deliver them, too, if they go to the Y-Block shootout.
Eliminating delivery costs can make it much easier to sell heavy things.
Have a look at this thread to get an idea about the potential of various heads.
Cylinder head comparison on the 312
The C heads are good heads, absolutely worth saving. If you want to sell the heads, it is very likely I can help you find someone who wants them and I may be able to deliver them, too, if they go to the Y-Block shootout.
Eliminating delivery costs can make it much easier to sell heavy things.
Have a look at this thread to get an idea about the potential of various heads.
Cylinder head comparison on the 312
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Charlie, I give serious thought to what I want to do with my 292.
It seems low on hp, but I have no idea what gears I have, and I have a single 2 in exhaust with the crossover.
The problem is that it starts easily, idles well, and runs smoothly. It just doesn't have a lot of get up and go.
I can see collecting parts for a refresh down the road, I cant see tearing into it otherwise.
I am going to do the ramhorns and duals for now. Everything else as it needs to be done.
It seems low on hp, but I have no idea what gears I have, and I have a single 2 in exhaust with the crossover.
The problem is that it starts easily, idles well, and runs smoothly. It just doesn't have a lot of get up and go.
I can see collecting parts for a refresh down the road, I cant see tearing into it otherwise.
I am going to do the ramhorns and duals for now. Everything else as it needs to be done.
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I don't understand the context for the last post.
All I'm saying, per your "anything else you guys say is worth saving," is that the whole 272 is worth saving and if it is not something you want to hold onto, I can probably get you in touch with people who want the parts so you can likely turn it into a profit and I'm willing to help you get those parts to them if I can so there are no shipping costs to deal with.
All I'm saying, per your "anything else you guys say is worth saving," is that the whole 272 is worth saving and if it is not something you want to hold onto, I can probably get you in touch with people who want the parts so you can likely turn it into a profit and I'm willing to help you get those parts to them if I can so there are no shipping costs to deal with.
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I understand. At this time I don't have a easy way to go and get it and don't have a place to store it.
That sounds crazy, but when I first saw the ad I walked into the garage and tried to figure out how I could get it in there.
The answer is that if something goes in, something has to go out.
F100
2 Harley baggers
2 engines
2 trannys
2 rear ends
2 roll aways
table saw
All the other normal garage stuff.
bead blast cabinet
air compressor
If anyone in Georgia is interested, he lives 3 mi North of Gray.
That sounds crazy, but when I first saw the ad I walked into the garage and tried to figure out how I could get it in there.
The answer is that if something goes in, something has to go out.
F100
2 Harley baggers
2 engines
2 trannys
2 rear ends
2 roll aways
table saw
All the other normal garage stuff.
bead blast cabinet
air compressor
If anyone in Georgia is interested, he lives 3 mi North of Gray.
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The only thing I don't like about my F100 is that it is to nice to use as a truck. I could drop a sandwich under the hood or in the bed and not feel bad about picking it back up and eating it.
I have had the truck off the road for about a month. Im finishing up my cluster project today and taking her for a spin.
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The Ranger is nice, the F100 not so much. Always worrying about door dings and birds is a pita. Somebody somewhere suggested that original rams horns are brittle or something and to be avoided . Hm. Likely story, huh.
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If I understand correctly, Y-Blocks (and maybe other engines) did not use exhaust manifold gaskets from the factory. That allows them to cool more effectively. When gaskets are used, they insulate the manifold so they can't get rid of the excess heat which makes them prone to cracking.
The truck "gaskets" with the incorporated heat shields are metal, so it was manifold, metal gasket, head.
Maybe that is why someone called them brittle. That's no fault of the manifold, though.
The truck "gaskets" with the incorporated heat shields are metal, so it was manifold, metal gasket, head.
Maybe that is why someone called them brittle. That's no fault of the manifold, though.
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Many Fords did not use a exhaust manifold gasket. That works well as long as both surfaces are flat and true. Once one of them, usually the manifold warps, you get an exhaust leak. The proper way to fix it is to have the manifold resurfaced. The easy way to fix it is to stick a gasket in.
