1996 E350 WONT START
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1996 E350 WONT START
E350 with a 7.5ltr 460ci beast will not start. Pulled out of my driveway yesterday morning and all of a sudden just shut off. It cranks but no start. (made me late for work). This has happened a couple of times before where it just shuts off when in motion but then it starts 5 minutes later, weird I know. So this time is for good no start. So I checked the fuel pump I can hear it prime strong when I turn on the ignition. I was told these vans are notorious for the ignition control module to go bad all of a sudden and that these were the symptoms so I replaced it with new one and no success, does the same thing. Has half of tank of gas. Any suggestions fellas?
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I think the First thing you should do is get the code's read.
Your in the right direction, on possible causes, but with out the codes, all your going to do it throw unneeded parts at it until you find the main problem.
Besides about 12 different sensors to check, it could be as simple as an O2 sensor, or EGR valve problem, or a bad ECM???
Here's a Link to the sensor testing. Part 1 -Ford Index of Articles.
Your in the right direction, on possible causes, but with out the codes, all your going to do it throw unneeded parts at it until you find the main problem.
Besides about 12 different sensors to check, it could be as simple as an O2 sensor, or EGR valve problem, or a bad ECM???
Here's a Link to the sensor testing. Part 1 -Ford Index of Articles.
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Something unexplainable is happening with the 350. today after work I decided to pull it back into my driveway with my NAVi to get it out of the street. The van didn't go all the way into the driveway because it is an incline, so just for kicks I decided to turn the ignition key and yup it fired right up. WHY?!!! So here is what i'm thinking. After giving up last night I disconnected the battery and went home, connected it back before pulling it to the driveway today, so Did the computer reset? or will it be the same scenario that it will shut off in another couple of weeks like it has been the last few months? Any help on this would be greatly appreciated.
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You might be dealing with a failing ECM. Typically such things as you describe tend to be electrical in nature, more often than not a bad connection or connector somewhere.
Fluctuating temps where it will or will not start further point to electrical but I still suspect the ECM. Not sure if your year is OBD-II or OBD-I but either should have a DTC to narrow your issues.
Fluctuating temps where it will or will not start further point to electrical but I still suspect the ECM. Not sure if your year is OBD-II or OBD-I but either should have a DTC to narrow your issues.
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First, Yes, one bad sensor can shut the engine down, like your describing.
Also, a bad coil will kill the ignition, and several other things.
Disconnecting the battery for over 20 minutes will "re-set" the ECM.
But, Now, you'll not be able to read any codes on what the problem is, because the ECM is re-set.
You'll need to put 50-100 miles back on the vehicle to get the ECM to start storing "new" codes, so your like starting from scratch on the problems.
I wouldn't jump at the conclusion that the ECM is bad, and needs replacement, again, that's just throwing parts and money to "guest" what the problem is.
The ECM can be removed, and inspected for the dreaded leaking capacitors , which is the tale tell sign of a bad ECM. Also the connectors, wires, Loose?
'96 was the change over year, and with the 7.5 engine, it might be either the OBD I (as a left over) or OBD II there will be a decal on the front radiator support saying which system you have on that vehicle.
Also, a bad coil will kill the ignition, and several other things.
Disconnecting the battery for over 20 minutes will "re-set" the ECM.
But, Now, you'll not be able to read any codes on what the problem is, because the ECM is re-set.
You'll need to put 50-100 miles back on the vehicle to get the ECM to start storing "new" codes, so your like starting from scratch on the problems.
I wouldn't jump at the conclusion that the ECM is bad, and needs replacement, again, that's just throwing parts and money to "guest" what the problem is.
The ECM can be removed, and inspected for the dreaded leaking capacitors , which is the tale tell sign of a bad ECM. Also the connectors, wires, Loose?
'96 was the change over year, and with the 7.5 engine, it might be either the OBD I (as a left over) or OBD II there will be a decal on the front radiator support saying which system you have on that vehicle.
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From: Easton,Ks
The ICM you put in if was not Black in color it is the wrong one. So if it was gray in color you need to put the old one back in. The Black remote mounted ICM almost never goes bad.
As said above you either have a bad computer or a bad PIP sensor inside the distributor.
Is this a California E-350 or a 49 states E-350?
As said above you either have a bad computer or a bad PIP sensor inside the distributor.
Is this a California E-350 or a 49 states E-350?
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Finally got fed up with the issue and took it to a shop. Sure enough they discovered it was the Pick up sensor inside distributor. It was cheaper to replace the entire dist with a reman than just replace the sensor. So problem fixed. Thanks everyone for your help.
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