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Old Jan 1, 2015 | 08:24 PM
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Can hedges really be used to create a "fatal funnel"?

ATF will come to your place with hedge trimmers hanging below the AR barrels instead of a 203.
Ok, that's funny. I suspect Greywolf has briar hedges. Much more effective.
 
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Old Jan 1, 2015 | 08:29 PM
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Ok, that's funny. I suspect Greywolf has briar hedges. Much more effective.
With Rattle Snake dens.......
 
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Old Jan 2, 2015 | 12:13 AM
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OPSEC, guys. You're giving away the element of surprise.
 
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Old Jan 2, 2015 | 02:52 AM
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What about the tripwire into the moat once you get past the hedges? As per OPSEC, what's in the moat is classified.
 
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Old Jan 2, 2015 | 02:18 PM
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What about the tripwire into the moat once you get past the hedges? As per OPSEC, what's in the moat is classified.
Crocodiles, Hungry, Pissed.............
 
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Old Jan 2, 2015 | 05:29 PM
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Come to think of it, I know some people in Missippi who have 'Gator critters in their ponds, might be an idea.

But while the ATF are trimming my bushes, I figured to make a quiet exfil out the back way - truth to tell

Did I ever mention my idea to hook up a set of lawn sprinklers to a compressor and a can of gasoline with a set of well placed igniters?

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~ and people are afraid of GUNS...

The average individual just does not think. But I know better than to implement such a design, because it would instantly render my property into a class far beyond a "Fortified House" which is against the law in many states of the union - particularly Oklahoma:

Oklahoma has a new law that makes it a crime to “fortify” a citizen’s home against possible entry by law enforcement.

State Rep. Sue Tibbs was one of the sponsors of a bill that makes it unlawful for “any person to willfully fortify an access point into any dwelling, structure, building or other place where a felony offense prohibited by the Uniform Controlled Dangerous Substances Act is being committed, or attempted, and the fortification is for the purpose of preventing or delaying entry or access by a law enforcement officer, or to harm or injure a law enforcement officer in the performance of official duties.”

The law took effect Nov. 1, 2009.

The law states that to “fortify an access point” means to willfully construct, install, position, use or hold any material or device designed to injure a person upon entry or to strengthen, defend, restrict or obstruct any door, window or other opening into a dwelling, structure, building or other place to any extent beyond the security provided by a commercial alarm system, lock or deadbolt, or a combination of alarm, lock or deadbolt.

The law carries punishment of imprisonment of not more than five years or by a fine up to $10,000 or by both.


I wonder what Sue Tibbs house is fortified with?

I bet you can't get near it with anything less than an assault force...

Double standards **** me off.
 
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Old Jan 2, 2015 | 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Greywolf

Did I ever mention my idea to hook up a set of lawn sprinklers to a compressor and a can of gasoline with a set of well placed igniters?
Do that and you'd probably get in more trouble than the home invader who came for you.
 
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Old Jan 2, 2015 | 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by RL250
Ok, that's funny. I suspect Greywolf has briar hedges. Much more effective.
Poison Oak and Ivy are much more easily explained away, and have lingering debilitating effects.

~ just thinking out loud

You want to create a nuisance that places a burden on the medical assets, as well as being a morale based deterrent.

~ I have said before: Work WITH nature...

The Viet Cong understood this very well, and I have studied that.
 
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Old Jan 3, 2015 | 05:58 AM
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Well I wonder about high crime areas, that have bars on their windows to prevent a break in? There has to be some loopholes to justify a little extra fortification.
 
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Old Jan 3, 2015 | 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Greywolf
State Rep. Sue Tibbs was one of the sponsors of a bill that makes it unlawful for “any person to willfully fortify an access point into any dwelling, structure, building or other place where a felony offense prohibited by the Uniform Controlled Dangerous Substances Act is being committed, or attempted, and the fortification is for the purpose of preventing or delaying entry or access by a law enforcement officer, or to harm or injure a law enforcement officer in the performance of official duties.”

The law took effect Nov. 1, 2009.
If this is an accurate quote then so long as you aren't carrying on drug related felony offenses inside you are good to fortify all you want. I like the briar hedges funneling to a moat filled with water moccasins and gators myself, backed by claymores just in case. But thats just an old Army approach.

Carry on gentlemen.
 
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Originally Posted by sbryan
If this is an accurate quote then so long as you aren't carrying on drug related felony offenses inside you are good to fortify all you want. I like the briar hedges funneling to a moat filled with water moccasins and gators myself, backed by claymores just in case. But thats just an old Army approach.

Carry on gentlemen.
When did the Army use gators and snakes?
 
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Old Jan 3, 2015 | 07:24 AM
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When did the Army use gators and snakes?
Field expedient if you spent any time in a swamp.
 
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Old Jan 3, 2015 | 11:56 AM
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I like the briar hedges funneling to a moat filled with water moccasins and gators myself, backed by claymores just in case. But thats just an old Army approach.
Sounds like somebody has memorized the Ranger handbook!
They don't really trust us grunts to use live claymores. Even though we use training ones all the time, I've only seen a live one go off in OSUT.
 
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Old Jan 3, 2015 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by sbryan
If this is an accurate quote then so long as you aren't carrying on drug related felony offenses inside you are good to fortify all you want. I like the briar hedges funneling to a moat filled with water moccasins and gators myself, backed by claymores just in case. But thats just an old Army approach.

Carry on gentlemen.
Do you realize have much FUN it would be to see a bunch of Gov Traitors trying to penetrate a place with those defenses..........
 
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