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Old Jan 6, 2015 | 08:13 AM
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I think you guys are probably right. I just remembered that the first time I filled it up after purchase (also the time I fueled it while running), it was around a quarter of a tank or less. From what I understand, letting it go below that level can cause problems with the sender.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2015 | 09:02 AM
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Assuming I can't just clean the sender, can I purchase the sender separate or do I have to buy the pump/sender together? Looking at Ford's online part store, I only see the sender unit by itself for a gas model.....
 
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Old Jan 9, 2015 | 12:04 AM
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Anybody have a part number?
 
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Old Jan 9, 2015 | 12:47 AM
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2004 FORD F-250 SUPER DUTY Fuel Tank Sending Unit

I don't see it separately. On the link above they list the Motorcraft part # so you can shop around once you know which one you need.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2015 | 03:22 AM
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The diesel with from what I can tell only comes
one way. Sender only. The reason being the pump
is on the frame.

Sean
 
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Old Jan 9, 2015 | 08:11 AM
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Edit - NM ......... 87crewdually had you covered
 
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Old Jan 11, 2015 | 08:39 AM
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Thanks guys. I'm going to see what is going on inside the tank today.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2015 | 04:03 PM
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Pulled the sender and it ohms out to what it should be while moving the float. What else??
 
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Old Jan 12, 2015 | 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by PowerLines
Pulled the sender and it ohms out to what it should be while moving the float. What else??
Have a look at this thread https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/5...gas-guage.html
You should be able to get some of the resistance readings from post #7

Hope this help some.

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Old Jan 12, 2015 | 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Yahiko
Have a look at this thread https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/5...gas-guage.html
You should be able to get some of the resistance readings from post #7

Hope this help some.

Sean

Yeah we tested the resistance and all was as it should be at the sender. I disconnected the batteries and turned on the headlights for an hour after we buttoned it back up and key to run cycled all the gauges including the fuel. Started it up and it went to above E and the low fuel light went away.....for about 1 minute.....then down below E again. I think I read that you can replace just the fuel gauge on an 04 instead of the entire cluster?
 
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Old Jan 12, 2015 | 02:57 AM
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Have you given the guys at Circuit Board Repair for Auto & Appliances | Circuit Board Medics
a call yet? Also someone there is a member here on FTE
and you can PM them. Here is the link to there user profile
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The cluster in you truck has some smarts (CPU) in it and
just replacing the single gauge most likely won't fix it. If
you can get the cluster to go into the self test mode and the
gauge does the full swing then it is most likely not the problem,

There is one other option. Where in WA are you? My truck is
down right now but I still have my IDS and the tools that I used
to fix my last one. I am thinking that if your getting readings
from the sender then you might have a wiring problem between
the two locations. I also have tools for tracking wires and searching
for breaks in the wire.

Just a thought.

Sean
 
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Old Jan 12, 2015 | 10:12 AM
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I have not given them a call. I appreciate the offer to help me track down the bad wiring but I live over on the dry side in Spokane.
Do you think that the fuel gauge has any relation to the overhead trip computer? Mine wasn't working when I bought the truck so I had a buddy try and fix it for me. Well, he didn't fix it and the board looks like a 2 year old got a hold of a soldering iron. Anyway, could a short or open circuit on the board make the fuel gauge do what it's doing?
Probably coincidence but it seemed to happen around the same time.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2015 | 10:49 AM
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Does your truck have the message center in the dash? If so, you can put it into a self-test mode that will give you a direct readout of what the gauge is seeing from the sender.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2015 | 10:59 AM
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Does your truck have the message center in the dash? If so, you can put it into a self-test mode that will give you a direct readout of what the gauge is seeing from the sender.
No it's overhead.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2015 | 11:13 AM
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The 2004 Dash has a DIAG mode too!

Hopefully, you have an ODBII gauge?

Could the fuel float have a hole? and thus always SINK? Since it's ohm-ing out correctly maybe it just won't float?
ie: you ran the tank down low, the fuel sender got "stuck" at the bottom of the tank. You then filled it up and the fuel covered the float.
now that you removed the float - maybe it'll just work fine once it's re-installed.. (as long as it doesn't get stuck near the bottom again)

I am pretty sure you can query the fuel level (i.e.: scangauge2 Xcode) this should help you determine whether the PCM is getting anything in terms of fuel level from the tank.. Then you can decide whether the issue is getting a value FROM the sender - OR a display issue in the cluster (and overhead)..

I also believe you can put the DASH into "diagnostic mode" by holding DOWN the trip reset button AND then turning the key "ON" (NOT to start).
Actually, maybe you DO start it - I can't recall that part.. (try it one way or the other..)

Then release the trip button. IIRC, you then press/release the trip button to cycle through the various sensor values by looking at the odometer digital readout.
 
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