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Old Dec 8, 2014 | 08:55 AM
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1972 Ford 360

I have a 1972 Ford F350 with a 360 engine and a 4 speed trans. I'm having engine issues and my question is... I'm gonna pull the motor, what motors will bolt to the bell housing i have ??... And If i go with something different will any ford bell housing bolt to that transmission, so i could put any ford motor as long as i have the bell housing ?.. need some bolt in engine replacement options from yall.
 
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Old Dec 8, 2014 | 10:01 AM
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I have a 1972 Ford F350 with a 360 engine and a 4 speed trans. I'm having engine issues and my question is... I'm gonna pull the motor, what motors will bolt to the bell housing i have ??... And If i go with something different will any ford bell housing bolt to that transmission, so i could put any ford motor as long as i have the bell housing ?.. need some bolt in engine replacement options from yall.
Your bell is specific to the FE engine. It'll have to be another FE engine such as a 352, 360, 390, etc.

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Old Dec 8, 2014 | 12:52 PM
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but couldn't I bolt any ford bell housing to my trans and then run any motor ?? for example if I wanted a 302, couldnt i just get a bell houseing for the 302 and bolt right to my trans... or am I only gonna be able to run a FE motor period ??
 
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Old Dec 8, 2014 | 01:40 PM
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but couldn't I bolt any ford bell housing to my trans and then run any motor ?? for example if I wanted a 302, couldnt i just get a bell houseing for the 302 and bolt right to my trans... or am I only gonna be able to run a FE motor period ??
How about providing a bit more information like what trans you do have?

And the term "ANY" is too inclusive.... Windsor, mod motor, Coyote, FE, 385.. All Fords but different engine families.

Whatever engine you use has to have a bell that fits it. nd whatever bell you use has to have its rear bolt pattern match whateverr transmisson is used... typically, manual trans have the wide bolt pattern. Plus the correct input shaft length.

Here is the wide pattern dimensions:

Horizontal:



Vertical

 
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Old Dec 8, 2014 | 02:47 PM
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Another thing to consider is the engine stands, pedestals, etc that are specific for each engine family. Your FE engine stands can also be used for the Big 6 (240/300) engines by being slid to the next bolt holes. Other engine families use their own stands like the small block Windsor (289/302/351W) The 351M/400 engines use the small block stands. The 460 family (429/460) have their own.
 
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Old Dec 8, 2014 | 03:22 PM
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ok so for a direct replacement.... what are the FE motor sizes to look for.. i know a 390 is the same as my 360, what else... and does it matter if it come from a car or truck ?
 
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Old Dec 8, 2014 | 05:19 PM
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ok so for a direct replacement.... what are the FE motor sizes to look for.. i know a 390 is the same as my 360, what else... and does it matter if it come from a car or truck ?
IIRC, early and passenger car FEs used three motor mount bolts whereas trucks use two.

352, 360, 390, 410, 427, and 428. You'll trip over 360s all day at the salvage yard... or just order a crated FE from CME.

You do know how to ID the CI of an FE, right? Awesome!
 
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so i should just put one like that there in it or rebuild mine... and mines a mess of little things...
 
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Originally Posted by HIO Silver
IIRC, early and passenger car FEs used three motor mount bolts whereas trucks use two.

352, 360, 390, 410, 427, and 428. You'll trip over 360s all day at the salvage yard... or just order a crated FE from CME.

You do know how to ID the CI of an FE, right? Awesome!
Yes, I always figured 64 and earlier did not have the correct bosses cast into the block to use in a pickup. I have made a plate to bolt to the block and remount the pickup mounts to. Did it to a 332 I put in a 69 F250 4x4.
It depends on what the truck's job is. A 360 isn't near as bad an engine as most people fuss about, I've had some great running ones (and a couple dogs) If you are towing a lot a bigger engine is always better. Get a stroker crank kit, bore the 360 block and have about 416-417 ci.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2014 | 08:36 PM
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so i should just put one like that there in it or rebuild mine... and mines a mess of little things...
We can't answer that question. You'll have to decide what is best for your particular situation. Things to consider include time, tools, budget, facilities, know-how, and motivation. Be honest with yourself.

The alternative is to get a rebuilt long- or short-block, rent a cherry picker, and, with an extra set of hands, swap 'er over a weekend. Preparation is the key.

But with your current situation maybe ya gotta take a step back and take care of all the small things.. then the big things should take care of themselves.

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It depends on what the truck's job is. A 360 isn't near as bad an engine as most people fuss about, I've had some great running ones (and a couple dogs) If you are towing a lot a bigger engine is always better. Get a stroker crank kit, bore the 360 block and have about 416-417 ci.
2x... more cubes typically results in more HP and TQ but pragmatically how often would you require 450 HP? It's nice to know that the potential is under your right foot but is it "necessary" per se? No. But if you, the OP, have the luxury and means to build a stroker 445FE then by all means let's get the party started.
 
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There are 2 different FE engine block bolt patterns for the rubber insulators.

1) 1958/64 FE engines were only installed in Passenger Cars, have rounded valve covers without holes for smog valve/oil cap, have an engine oil fill tube on the right front side.

2) FE engines first installed in 1965 F100/350's, so...1965/71 Passenger Cars & 1965/76 F100/350's have the same block bolt pattern.
 
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