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Old Sep 28, 2014 | 07:06 PM
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C6 shift selector issue

My 1977 F250 suddenly developed a problem with the shift selector. It will not go into the 1 position, and will barely go to the 2 position. Neutral reverse and park are completely normal as is the function of the transmission otherwise. I see nothing interfering with the linkage. Any clues from this knowledgeable bunch?
 
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Old Sep 28, 2014 | 07:40 PM
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More than likely the shift socket has started to crack. That's what Ford calls it. Most people call it the shift collar. It's the piece the gearshift lever fits into.
Cracking is a very common problem. They're a bit of a pain to change but not too bad.
 
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Old Sep 29, 2014 | 04:00 AM
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Originally Posted by mikeo0o0o0
More than likely the shift socket has started to crack. That's what Ford calls it. Most people call it the shift collar. It's the piece the gearshift lever fits into.
Cracking is a very common problem. They're a bit of a pain to change but not too bad.
D5TZ-7228-A (replaced C5TZ-7228-A & C9TZ-7228-A) .. A/T Shift Socket Kit / Available from Ford

Applications: 1965/77 F100/350 / 1973/77 Bronco & Econoline.
 
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Old Sep 29, 2014 | 06:32 AM
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Correct Bill, the one in the pic is for the 78-9. I posted that just to show him what I was talking about. I'll edit it.
 
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Old Sep 29, 2014 | 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Tomc750
My 1977 F250 suddenly developed a problem with the shift selector. It will not go into the 1 position, and will barely go to the 2 position. Neutral reverse and park are completely normal as is the function of the transmission otherwise. I see nothing interfering with the linkage. Any clues from this knowledgeable bunch?
Yep .... I bet the pivot pin for the lever is also loose. Between the cracks and wear and all, it stacks up. Sounds like a shift collar replacement.

I replaced mine last year, made a chart of all the wires in connector before taking apart. I also slacked the pinch bolt under the hood to let me get some extra room. Also broke NSS tab and had to get a new one to snap in.

All in all .... it was not "fun" ..... just tedious and time consuming ..... but not hard either.

There's a thread here where I wrote about my experience. There are others.
 
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Old Sep 29, 2014 | 07:10 PM
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Thanks for the replies. I just checked the shift collar and pin. no cracks and the pin is tight as well as the entire linkage. I may not have been clear, the selector will not move past the "2". It seems to come against a solid stop. Tomorrow I will disconnect the linkage from the lever on the trans, as it acts to me like the problem is there. I'll report back.
 
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Old Sep 30, 2014 | 03:32 AM
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Thanks for the replies. I just checked the shift collar and pin. no cracks and the pin is tight as well as the entire linkage.
You cannot see the cracks unless you remove the shift collar and look at the inside of it.

The pot metal shift collar has an internal bridge that connects it to the shift tube. Over time it develops cracks, eventually the bridge snaps off.

Now you're not going anywhere, as the collar is no longer connected to the tube.

This same problemo affects ALL A/T & 3 M/T shift collars of every FoMoCo vehicle, not just these specific trucks.
 
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Old Sep 30, 2014 | 07:22 AM
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Here's a clearer picture of what Bill is talking about.
These pieces were die cast from a very weak "pot metal" and the part of the casting that bridges between the inner and outer parts will crack. This is a progressive problem and when it finally breaks completely, like Bill said, you're not going anywhere unless you get up under the hood and work the linkage manually.
 
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Old Sep 30, 2014 | 11:56 AM
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This was certainly an abject lesson at felling stupid. The linkage was bumping against the inside edge of the exhaust pipe. It appeared to have sufficient clearance when I was under the truck yesterday!

I apologize for the trouble. And yes, having worked on Fords for about 60 of my 74 years, I have seen a lot of the linkage problems. I have always preferred the Ford standard shift linkage over others, and used to build floor shifts out of them. Thanks again.
 
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I apologize for the trouble.
No need to apologize. We've all had those "DOH!" moments, even those who won't admit it.
 
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