Brake hard-line replacement
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Brake hard-line replacement
Howdy. My buddy just got a 1996 E150 (standard wheelbase I guess) and it sounds like it's going to need new hard-lines for the braking system.
I searched and found one thread here, which shed some light.
Is there anything special I need to know?
I haven't looked at it yet, but I imagine we'll just get universal line segments, with the flares and nuts already there, and bend to fit.
Thanks.
I searched and found one thread here, which shed some light.
Is there anything special I need to know?
I haven't looked at it yet, but I imagine we'll just get universal line segments, with the flares and nuts already there, and bend to fit.
Thanks.
Laughing Gas
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You could go with the 'pre-made' brake lines 
Quick search found this link-
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/9...rake-line.html
Good link, with pictures too.
Me, I've been that route before, Now, I get a roll (25ft) of coated 3/16" steel line, bag of 10 short 3/16" x 3/8" hollow nuts, and make my own lines.
Cost = coated line is about $1 /ft, nuts are less than $9 for 10.
Compare that to pre-made line.
Replace everything, from master cylinder, and all soft lines too, and at the age of that van (18 years old) I would also replace the wheel cylinders.
In other words, replace everything at once, and trouble free for years to come.
Is this over kill, Yes, it's a full days job, and with everything getting replaced, and one time bleeding the system, your done with any additional leaks, or problems.
Just make sure you double flair all fittings, that is a must.
This link shows the "new" Napa flaring tool -
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...eplacment.html
Quick search found this link-
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/9...rake-line.html
Good link, with pictures too.
Me, I've been that route before, Now, I get a roll (25ft) of coated 3/16" steel line, bag of 10 short 3/16" x 3/8" hollow nuts, and make my own lines.
Cost = coated line is about $1 /ft, nuts are less than $9 for 10.
Compare that to pre-made line.
Replace everything, from master cylinder, and all soft lines too, and at the age of that van (18 years old) I would also replace the wheel cylinders.
In other words, replace everything at once, and trouble free for years to come.
Is this over kill, Yes, it's a full days job, and with everything getting replaced, and one time bleeding the system, your done with any additional leaks, or problems.
Just make sure you double flair all fittings, that is a must.
This link shows the "new" Napa flaring tool -
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...eplacment.html
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You could go with the 'pre-made' brake lines
Quick search found this link-
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/9...rake-line.html
Good link, with pictures too.
I get a roll (25ft) of coated 3/16" steel line, bag of 10 short 3/16" x 3/8" hollow nuts, and make my own lines.
Cost = coated line is about $1 /ft, nuts are less than $9 for 10.
Compare that to pre-made line.
This link shows the "new" Napa flaring tool -
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...eplacment.html
Quick search found this link-
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/9...rake-line.html
Good link, with pictures too.
I get a roll (25ft) of coated 3/16" steel line, bag of 10 short 3/16" x 3/8" hollow nuts, and make my own lines.
Cost = coated line is about $1 /ft, nuts are less than $9 for 10.
Compare that to pre-made line.
This link shows the "new" Napa flaring tool -
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...eplacment.html
Perfect links. I swear I searched "brake lines" on this site and found one relevant thread from a few years ago, but not the one from one month ago...
It probably would be better to just get a roll of tubing and the hollow nuts, and "rent" the flaring tool from the McParts store.
I did mention the flexible rubber lines to the owner, and will mention the wheel cylinders.
I'm definitely all for bleeding it one time only.
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My 40 year old van has good steel, the rubber, that was the problem, it wouldn't allow the rear the required pressure for braking, it was seized to the line nut too, wound uip destroying it, had to cut the steel line and reflare it to attach my new rubber.
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OK, I got the line and the fittings, he brought the van over, I got under it, and found ABS!
4 Wheel ABS!!!
It's a '96 Tradewinds conversion.
I googled it, and decided that I'd better leave it alone, as I don't have a scan tool for the ABS module, and I've never had or worked on ABS or even an OBD2 vehicle.
Am I right to chicken out on this job?
It sounds like if air gets in that ABS module, that it won't let any fluid through, hence no brakes. So it would have to be towed to a shop to bleed out the ABS properly?
4 Wheel ABS!!! It's a '96 Tradewinds conversion.I googled it, and decided that I'd better leave it alone, as I don't have a scan tool for the ABS module, and I've never had or worked on ABS or even an OBD2 vehicle.
Am I right to chicken out on this job?
It sounds like if air gets in that ABS module, that it won't let any fluid through, hence no brakes. So it would have to be towed to a shop to bleed out the ABS properly?
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