I agree the cranking speed difference was night and day! Somewhere I have the spec sheet, but no doubt a nice benefit!

 

Thanks zrt600guy! I applied for the Heavy Duty card this morning online at the AITA site.


Bob

 

I put the new starter on this morning, the top bolt is a PITA but now the spins over so fast I can't believe it!

I also cleaned the EGR valve, idles so much better and seems to have more power.

 

The top bole can be a PITA bit if you have a set of extensions
that are the right length and a fine toothed short handle ratchet
you can get the job done easily. One other thing would be a
magnet in the socket to hold the bolt. If you drop it behind the
starter a magnet fish tool comes in handy.


Sean

 

Finding the right extension combo was the key. Wife even said the starting sounded a lot better, kind of ticks me off I was telling the dealer about it cranking slow for over a year, could have been covered under my now expired ESP.

 

BUT, and it's a BIG But.
You would be getting the stock Ford starter not the NAPA one.


Sean

 

All this talk about starters, guess what happened today?

Go to start the mighty 6.0, turn the key: "click"

The Napa starter actually turns the engine over too fast for a compression test on the IDS. How the test works: is that it measures compression while cranking and preventing the engine from starting.

The test will start, but it will fail because the engine is turning too fast. I know it sounds weird, but we did the test on npcpartsman's truck and that's what happened.

I'm taking mine to a local rebuilder close to work, hopefully they can get me fixed up same day.

 

It tests by measure the acceleration and deceleration of the
crankshaft tone ring as each piston comes up during the
compression stroke. If it's spinning too fast then it can't
make the measurement. It's basically looking at time and speed.

With a starter turning too fast it can't compensate for the speed
with the algorithm that it uses.


Sean

 

It will spin the engine too fast to keep IDS from starting it--LOL.

 

Stuff the old starter back in and then do the test. < GRR > Smilies are not working also.

Sean

 

Well there it is, much clearer and better explained.

As it turned out, my starter was in perfect shape. It was one of the few filthy parts left on my truck from Amarillo. So the starter got cleaned and reinstalled but still nothing.

It then occurred to me that the solenoid was doing it's job, but the rest of the starter wasn't. I reach to check the cable from the battery to the starter and find the cable.....separated.

Long and short of it, when I did the cable upgrade, I spliced into the existing 2/0 cable going down to the starter. It had separated from the splice connector I used. Fixed it and my truck started like it should....

Missed not having my truck for a day....

 

What starter are you guys referencing?

It used to be NAPA NAE 76193 which it seems is no longer available.

Josh

 

I ended up using the OReilly Auto starter and will be taking my old one in for a rebuild.