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Old Jan 23, 2015 | 08:43 AM
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No electric fan will flow the cfm of the factory fan, what's the point?
 
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Old Jan 23, 2015 | 09:39 AM
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And there is enough battery drain already... not a good upgrade, actually closer to a down-grade at the shortened life of battery/alternators. Those fans pull 30-40amps on average and on a hot day... no thank you.
 
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Old Jan 23, 2015 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by the_auto_tech
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Thanks for considering our cooling components for the maintenance on your 6.0L! Let me know if you have any questions about the components listed.

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No electric fan will flow the cfm of the factory fan, what's the point?
Removing the stock mechanical fan can reduce rotational mass and free up some horsepower and torque. Previous independent test have shown some pretty nice increases. Our team would really like to explore the actual gains at some point in the future.

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Old Jan 23, 2015 | 12:45 PM
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Removing the stock mechanical fan can reduce rotational mass and free up some horsepower and torque. Previous independent test have shown some pretty nice increases. Our team would really like to explore the actual gains at some point in the future.

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No thanks, the stock system works fine and the 6.0 is not lacking in the hp or torque dept. Like WatsonR said, the power for the fan has to come from somewhere and amps are in short supply on these trucks.
 
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Old Jan 23, 2015 | 06:12 PM
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I would sure like to see the independent study results.
 
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Old Jan 23, 2015 | 07:51 PM
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I don't doubt it would reduce rotational mass (kinda a given) which would free up ponies but it would be a hard road to get an electric fan to flow the best amount of air for our engine--just my thoughts.

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Old Jan 24, 2015 | 08:28 AM
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I tried electric fans on my f150. Was a dual fan set-up, covered the entire radiator... they ran awesome. Gain of about 10hp, never ate themselves. The electronic/wiring were top notch... but it ate an alternator every year and each unit drew about 30 amps and in the summer ran continuously with A/C turned on. In the winter they ran when the defroster came on (A/C clutch engaged), so there was a constant draw on the battery... yep ate one every two years.

But for a measly 10hp, I'm not spending $400 to possible flow less air and have to replace alternators and batteries every year or so. That said, I wouldn't consider this an upgrade, cool to say you have electric fans, sure but it's cost prohibitive.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2015 | 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by WatsonR
I tried electric fans on my f150. Was a dual fan set-up, covered the entire radiator... they ran awesome. Gain of about 10hp, never ate themselves. The electronic/wiring were top notch... but it ate an alternator every year and each unit drew about 30 amps and in the summer ran continuously with A/C turned on. In the winter they ran when the defroster came on (A/C clutch engaged), so there was a constant draw on the battery... yep ate one every two years.

But for a measly 10hp, I'm not spending $400 to possible flow less air and have to replace alternators and batteries every year or so. That said, I wouldn't consider this an upgrade, cool to say you have electric fans, sure but it's cost prohibitive.
I'm not convinced you "gain" any HP (gut feeling not claiming I "know") since the alternator is obviously working harder and that puts a load on the engine rotating Similar to the original fan you removed..
 
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Old Jan 24, 2015 | 09:12 AM
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Old Jan 24, 2015 | 11:23 AM
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It might be a "cool" idea for those who live where it's hot year round if you get in bumper to bumper traffic to keep things cool and have a separate switch
 
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Old Jan 24, 2015 | 12:11 PM
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Bet you would need to biggest alt and batteries you could get to run em.

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Old Jan 26, 2015 | 12:55 PM
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No thanks, the stock system works fine and the 6.0 is not lacking in the hp or torque dept. Like WatsonR said, the power for the fan has to come from somewhere and amps are in short supply on these trucks.
Originally Posted by KDAVID1
I don't doubt it would reduce rotational mass (kinda a given) which would free up ponies but it would be a hard road to get an electric fan to flow the best amount of air for our engine--just my thoughts.

2006 F350 4X4
Thanks for the feedback guys!

Originally Posted by WatsonR
I tried electric fans on my f150. Was a dual fan set-up, covered the entire radiator... they ran awesome. Gain of about 10hp, never ate themselves. The electronic/wiring were top notch... but it ate an alternator every year and each unit drew about 30 amps and in the summer ran continuously with A/C turned on. In the winter they ran when the defroster came on (A/C clutch engaged), so there was a constant draw on the battery... yep ate one every two years.

But for a measly 10hp, I'm not spending $400 to possible flow less air and have to replace alternators and batteries every year or so. That said, I wouldn't consider this an upgrade, cool to say you have electric fans, sure but it's cost prohibitive.
Great information, thank you.
 
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Old Feb 1, 2015 | 11:03 AM
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Yea, it's not something I would be doing either. The factory fan flows a **** ton of air and works well. I would imagine a dual fan setup that flows a lot of air for our trucks would be very taxing on the alternator and batteries. Also, it's not that I wouldn't consider the Mishimoto radiator and "upgrade" per say as the factory radiator has no problem cooling the truck. The "upgrade" comes in the fact it's an all aluminum unit with no plastic end tanks. The thermostat though seems to be proven to be worth it. I'll get the Mishimoto radiator once my stock one craps out, but it was replaced around 70,000 miles when it was in an accident, so I doubt I'll be having to replace it any time soon.
 
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Old Feb 1, 2015 | 04:06 PM
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which would you rather have, two medium pizzas or one large .



This thing is big, lots of pitch on the blades, and can be driven faster than engine rpm when the PCM says it's needed. If you want to move a lot of air it's going to take a lot of power. I think this is an example of some of the good engineering on these trucks (except for the routing of the wires for the fan clutch). Replacing this with anything electrically driven I'm aware of would be a downgrade.

I do have the Mishimoto radiator and thermostat and I like both of them.
 
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Old Feb 1, 2015 | 04:32 PM
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Rusty,
The answer to the question is,

Two Large Thin Crust Extra Cheese Pepperoni.

Two mediums is just not enough. But I like the two idea.

Sean
 
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