Notices
6.0L Power Stroke Diesel 2003 - 2007 F250, F350 pickup and F350+ Cab Chassis, 2003 - 2005 Excursion and 2003 - 2009 van

Engine RPM

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Sep 10, 2014 | 04:54 PM
  #1  
f350project's Avatar
f350project
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 151
Likes: 0
From: Richlands NC
Engine RPM

What is ideal engine RPM while cranking to get the motor started? While cranking I won't get over 200 RPM. The engine sputters and puffs smoke but fails to light. Absolutely everything else required for a start has been attained ie: ICP pressure 800+pis ICPv .28 IPR% 49 FICM sync yes, CKP/CAM sync yes, Exhaust back pressure is good. FICM V12 L12 M48 (from dieseltechron)
Injectors/PCM passes all test KOEO no faults whats DTC what so ever. Batteries are good and alternator is brand new. Batts put on trickle charge over night.
I have used all the awesome info from this forum to eliminate all the usual suspects and have read that the engine RPM need to be around 250. I may get 160-180 RPM and the starter is OEM not reman.
What do you all think.
 
Reply
Old Sep 10, 2014 | 08:43 PM
  #2  
KDAVID1's Avatar
KDAVID1
Logistics Pro
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 4,073
Likes: 5
From: TX
Some lately have had issue with ac compressor being siezed preventing start.

Using IB AutoGroup
 
Reply
Old Sep 10, 2014 | 08:47 PM
  #3  
bismic's Avatar
bismic
Fleet Owner
Community Builder
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 27,918
Likes: 3,636
Club FTE Gold Member
You should be able to start if it is 150 +
 
Reply
Old Sep 10, 2014 | 09:50 PM
  #4  
78fordman's Avatar
78fordman
Cargo Master
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 2,833
Likes: 5
From: Jefferson, Iowa
Do a bubble test.
 
Reply
Old Sep 10, 2014 | 10:28 PM
  #5  
f350project's Avatar
f350project
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 151
Likes: 0
From: Richlands NC
Test done

Originally Posted by 78fordman
Do a bubble test.
Injectors are new, I did a bubble test anyway and no bubbles from either bank
 
Reply
Old Sep 10, 2014 | 10:33 PM
  #6  
f350project's Avatar
f350project
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 151
Likes: 0
From: Richlands NC
Originally Posted by KDAVID1
Some lately have had issue with ac compressor being siezed preventing start.

Using IB AutoGroup
I'll check it out. Would it stop the engine from starting though it is spinning between 160-180rpm
 
Reply
Old Sep 11, 2014 | 01:14 AM
  #7  
Yahiko's Avatar
Yahiko
Fleet Owner
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 27,307
Likes: 549
From: Spanaway
Take the tension off the belt and see if you can turn the A/C compressor
by hand. If you can't then take the bolt out of the center of the A/C
compressor clutch and see if you can spin the pulley. It you can then
re-apply the tension to the belt and try starting it. You can run that
way if needed.

Sean
 
Reply
Old Sep 11, 2014 | 12:31 PM
  #8  
f350project's Avatar
f350project
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 151
Likes: 0
From: Richlands NC
A/C compressor is not the problem, I removed the belt and checked the pulley and it spins freely
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

This Hennessey Takes the Expedition Tremor's Off-Roading Capability to the Next Level

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

Top 10 Fords at 2026 Carlisle Ford Nationals

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

3 Best / 3 Worst Parts of Modern Ford Ownership

 Brett Foote
story-3

10 Amazing Upgrades That Solve Common Ford Truck Owner Headaches

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

Every 2026 Ford Engine Explained

 Brett Foote
story-5

10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-6

10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

 Brett Foote
Old Sep 11, 2014 | 03:20 PM
  #9  
Zejokee's Avatar
Zejokee
Freshman User
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 45
Likes: 0
Weak fuel pump?
 
Reply
Old Sep 11, 2014 | 03:23 PM
  #10  
f350project's Avatar
f350project
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 151
Likes: 0
From: Richlands NC
Originally Posted by Zejokee
Weak fuel pump?
Fuel pump is actually good. Didi blue spring upgrade and have a mechanical gauge attached to regulator. Puts out 62+ psi KOEO and during cranking
 
Reply
Old Sep 11, 2014 | 03:28 PM
  #11  
Zejokee's Avatar
Zejokee
Freshman User
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 45
Likes: 0
I had a truck like this the other day. Was working on it for a buddy. Truck wouldn't crank or anything. Starter was bad. Put a new starter in. It would crank and everything needed to start was achieved but it wouldn't start. I told the owner and he was like yeah it does that, hit it with some ether. I tried explaining to him it was a bad idea and waited till he arrived and let him do it. It fired right up. He says his truck will not start after sitting for a while, like weeks at a time, with out ether. I would not advised this at all. Just sharing my experience. I would think it would have to be something fuel related.
 
Reply
Old Sep 11, 2014 | 06:06 PM
  #12  
Bonanza35's Avatar
Bonanza35
Lead Driver
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 9,399
Likes: 188
From: Norco,CA
Club FTE Silver Member

Like to know the answer to this as well?
 
Reply
Old Sep 11, 2014 | 06:37 PM
  #13  
f350project's Avatar
f350project
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 151
Likes: 0
From: Richlands NC
Originally Posted by Bonanza35
Like to know the answer to this as well?
You and me both. I will be looking for a twisted fuel line tomorrow. Even though fuel comes out of the banjo when disconnected from the block it may still be restricted by some blockage
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
akmikek
1999 - 2016 Super Duty
0
Nov 4, 2017 03:45 PM
WatsonR
6.0L Power Stroke Diesel
15
Jul 25, 2014 10:41 AM
missalot
Big Block V8 - 385 Series (6.1/370, 7.0/429, 7.5/460)
1
Mar 2, 2007 11:07 AM
zirius
6.0L Power Stroke Diesel
3
Sep 7, 2004 02:30 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:31 PM.

story-0
This Hennessey Takes the Expedition Tremor's Off-Roading Capability to the Next Level

Slideshow: The VelociRaptor Expedition gains a lift, upgraded suspension, Brembo brakes, and trail-ready equipment while retaining the stock 440-horsepower EcoBoost V6.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-12 11:01:55


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Fords at 2026 Carlisle Ford Nationals

Slideshow: Top 10 Fords at 2026 Ford Nationals

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-09 11:10:08


VIEW MORE
story-2
3 Best / 3 Worst Parts of Modern Ford Ownership

Based on years of owning multiple modern Ford products.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-09 10:53:36


VIEW MORE
story-3
10 Amazing Upgrades That Solve Common Ford Truck Owner Headaches

SPONSORED: From muddy boots to rain-soaked cargo, these upgrades address some of the most common frustrations Ford truck owners face every day.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-06-08 18:50:34


VIEW MORE
story-4
Every 2026 Ford Engine Explained

Here's everything you need to know about every Ford engine available for the 2026 model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-05 12:58:01


VIEW MORE
story-5
10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Ford trucks that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 09:51:16


VIEW MORE
story-6
10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: the best gifts for dads & grads

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:58


VIEW MORE
story-7
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-03 11:38:36


VIEW MORE
story-8
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-9
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE