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Old Sep 1, 2014 | 03:52 PM
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Another question I have is-IF they were Ford Reman injectors you have a 24-month warranty on them....how did you end up buying more? You should have been able to swap them no issues.
Ford doubled the warranty about a year ago. You've been gone too long Tyler or that Chebby chit has clouded your mind--LMAO.
 
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Old Sep 1, 2014 | 04:29 PM
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I highly highly doubt it's your HPOP-if anything it's the STC fitting (maybe)

I would HIGHLY recommend doing both fuel filters before doing ANYTHING else, I've done filters on some 6.0s that were so clogged it wasn't even funny.

Another question I have is-IF they were Ford Reman injectors you have a 12-month warranty on them....how did you end up buying more? You should have been able to swap them no issues.

I know, right. The first set were put in by a mechanic in Chicago - I wrote about the experience in a post here "A forum success story." I was broke down on the side of the road, we towed it to his house. He now tells me that he buys the injectors from the same place Ford gets them remanned, a company called AER.

I would have had to send them to him, and he'd get them swapped and send them back. But I was broke down again out of town, both times were on Friday and I couldn't spend the weekend there. Had to fix it that day.

So the second set, I bought from the Ford dealer. Now, if those are bad, I should be able to get them replaced.

But, obviously, something is making these go bad, or they're not bad at all and something else is causing the problems.

Fuel filters are my next fix. But the second mechanic claimed to have checked that as part of his "diagnostic" service for which I threw away $100.
 
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Old Sep 1, 2014 | 04:38 PM
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The injectors are remaned by Navistar in South Carolina. I don't know who AER is or where that mechanic got his information. The only place to get injectors with new spool valves is from Ford or Navistar as far as I've been able to tell. Regardless, the only thing we need to worry about is how to get your truck fixed. The rest we can save for a cold winter day.
 
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Fuel Pressure?
 
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Old Sep 1, 2014 | 04:44 PM
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Fuel Pressure?
And/or an injector leaking internally. That's why I urged him to do a bubble test and test his fuel pressure.

Another thing I was taught by a VERY well respected tech on this site is that the contribution test sometimes gives false readings by reading the cylinder opposite the cylinder that's actually failed. I don't think that's the case here because so many are on the same side and that's why I haven't mentioned it before. What I think is that either there is an incorrectly torqued injector, an injector leaking compression internally (new or old), or BAD fuel pressure. Actually I think it's a combination of both.
 
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Old Sep 1, 2014 | 04:48 PM
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And/or an injector leaking internally. That's why I urged him to do a bubble test and test his fuel pressure.
My bad, didn't know it was already mentioned....I only read page 2.
 
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The injectors are remaned by Navistar in South Carolina. I don't know who AER is or where that mechanic got his information. The only place to get injectors with new spool valves is from Ford or Navistar as far as I've been able to tell. Regardless, the only thing we need to worry about is how to get your truck fixed. The rest we can save for a cold winter day.
Yeah, I don't know if he's telling me the truth or not. I have heard of AER, they have a plant in Dallas making something.

That's why I had hoped that my problem was just that he gave me crappy injectors. But, that doesn't seem to be the case.

I'm hoping it's a fuel issue. I'd know nothing about diesels, but it seems like that if it were an oil leak or electrical problem, it wouldn't have worked just fine both times new injectors were put in. And, it seems logical that it might have worked fine for a while (4k miles) with poor fuel pressure on the first set, and as the problem worsened, they only worked fine for about 200 miles on the second set.

And yes, I need to get this fixed. I make my living hot shotting and spend all my ready cash on these first two sets. Now, I'm selling my other car to raise money to fix this, but I can't help thinking that since it runs great when it runs (no smoke at all, fires right up), there's just something minor wrong with it and that it's worth putting money into.
 
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Old Sep 1, 2014 | 04:56 PM
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My bad, didn't know it was already mentioned....I only read page 2.


Not a problem. I like your thinking.

BTW--liked your video. I would have sworn that was a video of me by looking at the hands, shorts, and T-shirt (with Marlboro's in the pocket).
 
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Old Sep 1, 2014 | 07:02 PM
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Ford doubled the warranty about a year ago. You've been gone too long Tyler or that Chebby chit has clouded your mind--LMAO.
LOL- I did not know they changed the warranty to 24 months- Awesome!

I am actually getting rid of the Chebby-Hopefully this week.
 
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Old Sep 1, 2014 | 07:44 PM
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Not a problem. I like your thinking.

BTW--liked your video. I like looking at your hands, shorts, and T-shirt (with Marlboro's in the pocket).
Quit stalking me, you freak!

 
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Old Sep 5, 2014 | 09:23 AM
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Yeah, I don't know if he's telling me the truth or not. I have heard of AER, they have a plant in Dallas making something.

That's why I had hoped that my problem was just that he gave me crappy injectors. But, that doesn't seem to be the case.

I'm hoping it's a fuel issue. I'd know nothing about diesels, but it seems like that if it were an oil leak or electrical problem, it wouldn't have worked just fine both times new injectors were put in. And, it seems logical that it might have worked fine for a while (4k miles) with poor fuel pressure on the first set, and as the problem worsened, they only worked fine for about 200 miles on the second set.

And yes, I need to get this fixed. I make my living hot shotting and spend all my ready cash on these first two sets. Now, I'm selling my other car to raise money to fix this, but I can't help thinking that since it runs great when it runs (no smoke at all, fires right up), there's just something minor wrong with it and that it's worth putting money into.
Have you figured out the problem yet? Brian and Tim are good, honest people. I wonder why you keep losing injectors.
 
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Old Sep 5, 2014 | 09:46 AM
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Losing fuel pressure while driving maybe? Bubble test done yet, results? Would really like to know the outcome.
 
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Old Sep 17, 2014 | 12:41 PM
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OK, here's the newest info. Recall that:

Truck broke down in Chicago - replaced 4 injectors, ran good all the way to Houston and back to Dallas.

Truck broke down in Dallas - replaced the same 4 injectors with Ford Remans. Truck ran good halfway to Houston.

Truck broke down. Towed it in, replaced totally crapped out fuel filters. Truck ran good.

UPDATE:

Truck started missing again after driving back to Dallas. Took it to Ford dealer, diagnosed as one bad injector, recommend rebuild regulator, replace fuel pump.

Rebuilt the fuel regulator first. It was badly clogged with build-up on the spring that showed only half of it could have been working. As before, the truck seemed to run fine after the repair, for about 200 miles. Then started missing again, albeit less than before.

Went to replace injector and found it so loose I could turn the torx bolt by hand. Previous mechanic did not torque. I asked him why as he did it, and he said it wasn't necessary. I warrantied that injector and put new one in. Checked torque on all of them.

Current status: there is still a miss, although nothing like before, and especially when the truck is cold - it even has a short period of surge a minute or so after starting having never accelerated. Even when working temp, I feel a little miss when accelerating early in each of the lower gears' ranges. However, I've not driven the truck very far or with a load.

The Ford mech said he only included the fuel pump in his recommendations because the company had recalled that one, however the recall was too long ago for me to get a free replacement. He said that if I'd replace the injector and rebuild the regulator I should be fine, but I'm not, although I think I'm closer than I've been in a while.

The pump is about $500 that I'd rather not spend, but it seems like the logical next step, especially considering how dirty the filters and regulator were.

Is there any chance that it's only stiction? Guess it'd have to be injectors on the other side since this side is all new.

Dang, I sure need a scanner. Got Torque Pro and ordered a blue tooth adapter on Amazon, but it doesn't get here until October.

And a fuel pressure gauge. Any recommendations on where to find one of those?

How about a link to instructions for performing the bubble test?
 
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Old Sep 17, 2014 | 05:09 PM
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OK, here's the newest info. Recall that:

Truck broke down in Chicago - replaced 4 injectors, ran good all the way to Houston and back to Dallas.

Truck broke down in Dallas - replaced the same 4 injectors with Ford Remans. Truck ran good halfway to Houston.

Truck broke down. Towed it in, replaced totally crapped out fuel filters. Truck ran good.

UPDATE:

Truck started missing again after driving back to Dallas. Took it to Ford dealer, diagnosed as one bad injector, recommend rebuild regulator, replace fuel pump.

Rebuilt the fuel regulator first. It was badly clogged with build-up on the spring that showed only half of it could have been working. As before, the truck seemed to run fine after the repair, for about 200 miles. Then started missing again, albeit less than before.

Went to replace injector and found it so loose I could turn the torx bolt by hand. Previous mechanic did not torque. I asked him why as he did it, and he said it wasn't necessary. I warrantied that injector and put new one in. Checked torque on all of them.

Current status: there is still a miss, although nothing like before, and especially when the truck is cold - it even has a short period of surge a minute or so after starting having never accelerated. Even when working temp, I feel a little miss when accelerating early in each of the lower gears' ranges. However, I've not driven the truck very far or with a load.

The Ford mech said he only included the fuel pump in his recommendations because the company had recalled that one, however the recall was too long ago for me to get a free replacement. He said that if I'd replace the injector and rebuild the regulator I should be fine, but I'm not, although I think I'm closer than I've been in a while.

The pump is about $500 that I'd rather not spend, but it seems like the logical next step, especially considering how dirty the filters and regulator were.

Is there any chance that it's only stiction? Guess it'd have to be injectors on the other side since this side is all new.

Dang, I sure need a scanner. Got Torque Pro and ordered a blue tooth adapter on Amazon, but it doesn't get here until October.

And a fuel pressure gauge. Any recommendations on where to find one of those?

How about a link to instructions for performing the bubble test?
Did you said that your blue tooth adapter is not gonna get to you until October?????

If I was you I would cancel that order and get this bluetooth
Robot Check Robot Check

Most of us use this one with good results and they have them in stock which should take less than a week to get to your door.

Bill
 
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Did you said that your blue tooth adapter is not gonna get to you until October?????

If I was you I would cancel that order and get this bluetooth Robot Check

Most of us use this one with good results and they have them in stock which should take less than a week to get to your door.

Bill
As usual, I screwed up trying to save a dollar. Looks like the same product, I just got it from someone in Hong Kong by mistake.
 
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