Trans. fluid running too cool...
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Cargo Master
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From: Archdale,N.C.
OK, while towing our camper(10,000 lbs) from central NC to Newport TN my Trans fluid held around 145 to 150. Outside Temps of 85ish, I40 from central NC to eTN is very hilly with a couple good pulls but nothing extreme. I have a 6.0 cooler and No OTW cooler. I know that's cool but is there any ill effects from the temp staying that low? Should I address it and what are some suggestions? Will an OTW cooler help or do I need something else? Thanks.. Phil.
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From: Temperance, MI
Towing that much it's hard to believe that your gauge is accurate. If you have the torque app or equal you can verify that that is the same temp that sensor inside the transmission is seeing.
The trans has an optimum temp range for efficiency. Too low and mileage will suffer, which is a big reason during the winter our fuel mileage takes a hit. I forgot now what temp Mark K was optimal.
The trans has an optimum temp range for efficiency. Too low and mileage will suffer, which is a big reason during the winter our fuel mileage takes a hit. I forgot now what temp Mark K was optimal.
Tuned
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From: Owensboro, KY
That does seem low for towing. I think I read here on this forum (probably on a Mark K post) that you want it to at least get up to 175 to evaporate any condensation that forms inside the tranny.
I still have stock cooler and mine stays around 90-100 degrees over air temp. A little more in stop and go towing. I have not towed this summer in extreme heat yet.
I still have stock cooler and mine stays around 90-100 degrees over air temp. A little more in stop and go towing. I have not towed this summer in extreme heat yet.
Fleet Mechanic
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From: Ringgold, Ga
Pulled basically that same area Sunday. I have stock cooler and otw. I stayed around 175-182 to Chattanooga. Almost the same load with our TT.
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Cargo Master
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Thanks guys, I'm gonna see what AE shows this weekend and compare it to my EV2 and go from there. I'll report back with the results.
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I run almost exactly what temps your running when towing my 12k Toy Hauler. I have a 6.0 trans cooler. Since installing the 6.0 trans cooler two years ago and towing about 20k miles in outside temps over 100 I have never gone over 160 degrees. When I first installed my gauges I actually tested the trans sending unit and it was right on. Running a 6.0 cooler you will be running cooler temps. I pretty much run 60 degrees above outside air temperature.
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Trans pan temp is going to be anywhere from 10-20 degrees off what the temp may be inside at the trans. I have a temp probe in my trans pan and it runs about 10 degrees cooler than the trans temp from my SGII on the OBDII port. I also have an issue of running too cold in the winter as my 6.0 cooler driving around keeps my temps in the 130 range in the winter unless I cover it up a little to bring the temps up. It is suppose to be 110 here today and while I don't plan on going anywhere, the 6.0 cooler sure does help on days like these.
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I agree on those hot days it's kinda nice. Our winters are pretty mild so I don't think cooler temps are a problem. Although I wonder why snakedoc who is also running a 6.0 cooler is running so much hotter? I wonder what it was running before the 6.0 cooler was installed?
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I ran my normal run with 106 degrees F, no humidity (wildfires nearby), and A/C on. Everything I have with a gauge was running hot that day... it surprised me how much the EGTs were effected.
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Humidity will also lower EGT. It is the same as injecting water into the engine, but on a smaller scale.