Notices
1999 - 2003 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel  
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: DP Tuner

200000 miles

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jul 15, 2014 | 01:25 PM
  #1  
mccloudfam1's Avatar
mccloudfam1
Thread Starter
|
5th Wheeling
10 Year Member
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 44
Likes: 0
200000 miles

Hello, I have a 2000 excursion with a 7.3l, 4" exhaust with 6"tip, k&n air filter. I recently turned over 200000 miles and I have noticed my fuel milage going down. I used to get 15 pretty much no matter what except when I towed my 34' toyhauler and it would go down to 10. Now I get 12 and 8. I faithfully change the oil (even the top 3 quarts) and the fuel filter. I put in fuel aid every service also. Is there anything I can do to get it back? I was also reading that it is a good idea to flush the motor, but I don't know what to use on a diesel? Someone mentioned the napa engine flush is good. if so do you use only 1 can or more because of the oil capacity?
 
Reply
Old Jul 15, 2014 | 01:33 PM
  #2  
Christof13T's Avatar
Christof13T
Postmaster
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 2,613
Likes: 8
From: North Georgia
At 200k i would be more concerned about boost leaks, exhaust leaks than flushing the oil system.
Exhaust back pressure sensor tube cleanout procedure might be all thats needed.

Got gauges?

Very important tidbits of information when tracking down power loss are:

Fuel pressure
Icp
Boost
Engine oil level/type


Check for exhaust leaks at the up pipes to collector connection.
Check the turbine side of the turbo for soot.
Check around where the exhaust manifolds mare to the heads for soot.
If you see soot... you have an exhaust leak.

Search : boost leak detector cap
 
Reply
Old Jul 15, 2014 | 02:47 PM
  #3  
thomabb's Avatar
thomabb
Cargo Master
15 Year Member
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 2,405
Likes: 4
Boost leaks and injector age are common culprits at that mileage. I will say though, I am still running factory sticks and I get 10 mpg towing the 5th wheel and 19 mpg empty highway without cetane boost. My numbers go up a couple points with cetane boost.
 
Reply
Old Jul 15, 2014 | 03:00 PM
  #4  
mccloudfam1's Avatar
mccloudfam1
Thread Starter
|
5th Wheeling
10 Year Member
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 44
Likes: 0
no, I only have stock gauages. The exhaust looks good, I don't see any soot around any where. Is there another way I can test for leaks? I have also cleaned that tube several times during maintance.
 
Reply
Old Jul 15, 2014 | 07:17 PM
  #5  
F350-6's Avatar
F350-6
Post Fiend
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 26,966
Likes: 50
From: Texas
We're assuming your fuel and air filters are in good shape. The drop in K&N has a reputation of not being good to diesels with a turbo, but some have had luck with them. If you remove the oil fill cap with the engine running, is there any pressure coming out the fill tube?

When exhaust leaks were mentioned, it was in reference to the up pipes where it connects to the back side of the turbo, not the actual exhaust pipe that comes off the side of the turbo and exits out the rear of the vehicle. Soot stains on the firewall at the back of the turbo or on the up pipes is what you want to look for.

For boost leaks, when was the last time you checked the hose clamps on the 6 rubber boots on the CAC tubes and turbo manifold?
 
Reply
Old Jul 15, 2014 | 07:21 PM
  #6  
greg_8507's Avatar
greg_8507
Elder User
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 642
Likes: 0
From: Onlsow, NC
If everything mentioned checks out, you might have a bad sensor or 2.... or so
 
Reply
Old Jul 15, 2014 | 09:26 PM
  #7  
mccloudfam1's Avatar
mccloudfam1
Thread Starter
|
5th Wheeling
10 Year Member
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 44
Likes: 0
okay. I did a boost leak test everything is good. It had a small leak on one of the rubber hoses and I just tightened up the clamp and it fixed that. I had never heard that with a k&n filter, but I have been running it since I got it, do you have a different recommendation? How about a chip just to help the fuel mileage is that possible? What sensors should I be looking at?
 
Reply
Old Jul 16, 2014 | 04:45 AM
  #8  
greg_8507's Avatar
greg_8507
Elder User
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 642
Likes: 0
From: Onlsow, NC
I had a Superchips programmer on my F-150 that had a fuel economy setting. When I used it, i actually got worse mileage. My money is on a bad sensor.
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

This Hennessey Takes the Expedition Tremor's Off-Roading Capability to the Next Level

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

Top 10 Fords at 2026 Carlisle Ford Nationals

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

3 Best / 3 Worst Parts of Modern Ford Ownership

 Brett Foote
story-3

10 Amazing Upgrades That Solve Common Ford Truck Owner Headaches

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

Every 2026 Ford Engine Explained

 Brett Foote
story-5

10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-6

10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

 Brett Foote
Old Jul 16, 2014 | 06:43 AM
  #9  
Tugly's Avatar
Tugly
Hotshot
10 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 18,849
Likes: 179
From: Puget Sound
Break out the chisel and the stone... I hereby declare this one thing as gospel (to date). The absolute best remedy for poor fuel economy is getting the truck back to 100% working condition. No chip or sauce will liven the party when the host has the flu.

To introduce myself, I almost never make such bold declarations, so I wouldn't post this lightly. I have multiple scan tools that look at every sensor on the truck, and I added some sensors of my own (dual EGTs and Fuel Pressure). I have tinkered with my truck with my Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder and monitored the results with my gauges. I have an all-time low of 15.5 MPG, an all-time high of 19.6 MPG, with a 16.5 MPG winter average and a 17.5 MPG summer average (empty). Other trucks have actually done better than "Stinky" has... so there is no reason you can't improve your economy.

With the economy you had before, you either drive short trips in town a lot, drive like a madman, or your Ex has been ailing a while.

Cleaning the tube and the sensor is a good practice, but you have no way to know if it has truly solved the Exhaust Back Pressure sensor reading - not without a scan tool or scan gauge. I cleaned mine, then checked the reading - no improvement. My sensor had what is called a "bias", which means it already had a false reading before I started the engine... so it had to be replaced.

You need to know what your boost is (for example), so you can install a boost gauge, or "tap in" to the boost gauge that's already on the truck - again, a scan tool or a scan gauge. The scan tool/gauge gives you access to many very expensive sensors already installed in the truck, plus you can see what the "brains" are doing with those sensor readings (how it controls the engine and transmission).

Are there any mods to the engine, other than the big-breathing exhaust and a gasping intake?
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
white Buffalo
1999 - 2003 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel
11
Mar 23, 2016 10:53 PM
countryboy73703
6.4L Power Stroke Diesel
22
Apr 6, 2013 06:54 PM
9905
1999 - 2003 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel
5
Apr 25, 2012 11:00 AM
PsD007.3
1999 - 2003 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel
12
Apr 5, 2009 09:51 AM
64ponton
1999 - 2003 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel
38
Dec 14, 2007 06:27 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:54 PM.

story-0
This Hennessey Takes the Expedition Tremor's Off-Roading Capability to the Next Level

Slideshow: The VelociRaptor Expedition gains a lift, upgraded suspension, Brembo brakes, and trail-ready equipment while retaining the stock 440-horsepower EcoBoost V6.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-12 11:01:55


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Fords at 2026 Carlisle Ford Nationals

Slideshow: Top 10 Fords at 2026 Ford Nationals

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-09 11:10:08


VIEW MORE
story-2
3 Best / 3 Worst Parts of Modern Ford Ownership

Based on years of owning multiple modern Ford products.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-09 10:53:36


VIEW MORE
story-3
10 Amazing Upgrades That Solve Common Ford Truck Owner Headaches

SPONSORED: From muddy boots to rain-soaked cargo, these upgrades address some of the most common frustrations Ford truck owners face every day.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-06-08 18:50:34


VIEW MORE
story-4
Every 2026 Ford Engine Explained

Here's everything you need to know about every Ford engine available for the 2026 model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-05 12:58:01


VIEW MORE
story-5
10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Ford trucks that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 09:51:16


VIEW MORE
story-6
10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: the best gifts for dads & grads

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:58


VIEW MORE
story-7
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-03 11:38:36


VIEW MORE
story-8
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-9
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE