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Old Jul 5, 2014 | 10:48 PM
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Could anyone help explain gear ratio's to me. Are some gear ratio's for towing, and others for highway driving? I have a 1972 F250 2wd with a 390 engine, C6 transmission, and a Dana 60 rear end with 4:10 gears. Are the 4:10 gear ratio for highway speed use or for some other purpose? Thanks for any help explaining this. Bruce
 
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Old Jul 5, 2014 | 11:16 PM
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Could anyone help explain gear ratio's to me. Are some gear ratio's for towing, and others for highway driving? I have a 1972 F250 2wd with a 390 engine, C6 transmission, and a Dana 60 rear end with 4:10 gears. Are the 4:10 gear ratio for highway speed use or for some other purpose? Thanks for any help explaining this. Bruce
With a numerically high gear ratio, like a 4.10, the driveshaft rotates 4.1 times per one wheel revolution whereas a numerically low ratio like a 2.80 the driveshaft only turns 2.8 times for every one wheel revolution. .. the former is good for towing and hauling heavy loads and the latter is a slug off the line due to less working leverage but it will cruise at a lower RPM at the same speed.

Don't get confused with the statement "shift into a higher gear" because that refers to 3rd, 4th, or 5th gear of the transmission... not the rear axle.

... Oy... we won't even get into 'final drive ratios'.
 
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Old Jul 5, 2014 | 11:35 PM
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You need a 3.54 ring and pinion to reduce cruising rpm and to decrease fuel consumption. They are scarce but not rare. You will need a pro to make the swap unless you are intimately familiar with the D60. If you can get the parts and labour for $500 you're doing ok. I made the change from a 4.56 to a 3.73, because I couldn't find a 3.54, and it made a world of difference. I could keep up with traffic on the freeway, noise went down, and the inadequacy of the brakes became very evident.
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Old Jul 5, 2014 | 11:59 PM
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You need a 3.54 ring and pinion to reduce cruising rpm and to decrease fuel consumption. They are scarce but not rare. You will need a pro to make the swap unless you are intimately familiar with the D60. If you can get the parts and labour for $500 you're doing ok. I made the change from a 4.56 to a 3.73, because I couldn't find a 3.54, and it made a world of difference. I could keep up with traffic on the freeway, noise went down, and the inadequacy of the brakes became very evident.
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that's nice to hear , I am doing 3.50's in my 9" and I am a little worried it will be too low with 33" tires, also completing a disc brake power steering setup but still worried about the low gears. I also had 4.10's
 
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Old Jul 6, 2014 | 01:00 PM
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I'm doing 3.90 gears in my 9" with 31" tires. But I'll have an AOD OverDrive tranny.
 
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Old Jul 6, 2014 | 04:54 PM
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Bruce, You have a towing truck, & unlike your 9in, swapping ratios is a bit harder. That thing ought to pull like a train and suck gas out of the tank at 70mph like you have a shop vac hose in the gas tank.


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Old Jul 6, 2014 | 07:58 PM
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Good explanation above on how the ratio numbers work. A lot of these trucks came with 4.10's factory. Not so great for the highway but will tow anything or 4 low, 1st gear and 4.10's these trucks can pull a house down. Gotta love them low gears. A gear swap to a 3.54 will give you better gas milage along with more highway speed without your engine screaming.
 
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Old Jul 7, 2014 | 10:36 AM
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Thanks for all the inputs on gear ratio's, this helps!!!
 
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I had 4.56 gears in my 67 f250. I thought it was broken because it was so slow. I swapped out both axles from a 78-79 with 3.54 ratio with disc front brakes and a 4 bolt power steering mod. That entire swap was less than $500 with new pads and I rebuilt the calipers.

It is a whole different truck. Still climb a telephone pole in granny.
I will soon know how a ZF5 and 460 like the ratio.
 
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^ nice, I was going the 460 route but then plans changed. Still have a 79 front axle under it though. And the 4 bolt PS swap
 
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The only way to go, discs and real power steering. I cringe when people post about rebuilding their closed knuckle axle with drums and power assist. Waste of money.
 
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