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The "wooden" door panel inserts part number

If you look at ebay # 151293343719, in the photo is a pair of the woodgrain door inserts.
Sorry, this is the only photo I have found of them.
Looking to get those with the power window switch hole. My door panel "had" them at one time (now gone) but without replacements, I have a 4" x 4" hole in the panel where these overlay, and no way to mount the switches.
Is there a part number for these?
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That number doesn't get me anywhere in ebay. But I think this answers your question. Don't miss the note under Description.

By the way, is it time for you to buy a copy of the catalog?
 
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In the parts Catalog, it looks like it a "23864-5" but the descriptions note different color panels, not a "woodgrain" trim, this is the confusing part.
 
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That is the generic number for the insert on all Ford doors. I believe, but I'm not sure, the number for a rosewood panel is E1TZ-1023864-A on the right side and E1TZ-1023865-A on the left side.

As said, I'm not sure of that. But my limited understanding is that the only insert used on the 80-84 trucks was rosewood. The models w/o the insert had a plain door panel that accepted the switches. Or, to put it another way, you had either the black dash trim or the rosewood trim. Black dash trim got no insert on the door. Rosewood dash trim got rosewood inserts on the door - if you had inserts on the door, which was an option or trim-level decision. Again, that's my understanding and may not be right.

Perhaps Bill/NumberDummy can clarify that?
 
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Perhaps Bill/NumberDummy can clarify that?
Even if he does, invariably somebody will show up saying they have one or another combination he didn't list as being available.
 
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Lots of people claim a lot of things, but I trust Bill's experience.
 
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If you find a set of panels with a "hole" for the manual window crank, you can easily make the hole square to convert it for the power window switch. Just use a die grinder. Don't worry about finding a finding a factory panel with the pwr window cutout.
The hard part is finding the wood grain panel.
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Originally Posted by Gary Lewis
By the way, is it time for you to buy a copy of the catalog?
I've got a set of the master parts catalogs for sale.
 
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Originally Posted by CountryBumkin
I've got a set of the master parts catalogs for sale.
Which years?
 
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And is it Searchable?
 
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Just wanted to add a little note to this for future reference.

Not only are there woodgrain trim panels made for trucks with crank windows, and for power windows, the woodgrain trim panels themselves differ through the years. When they first came out, they were made of aluminum and were held down by flimsy bend tabs that slipped through cuts in the door panel and were meant to be folded over the door panel back side.

Somewhere between 1980 and 1983 Ford switched the material used from aluminum to plastic. These newer plastic trim panels used push nuts as a method of retention. They were also known to warp much easier than the aluminum panels.
 
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Originally Posted by Gary Lewis
Which years?
1980-86. Master parts catalog. 3 three-ring binders.
 
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1980-86. Master parts catalog. 3 three-ring binders.
Or 1980-89 on one little CD.
 
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Originally Posted by Gary Lewis
Or 1980-89 on one little CD.
The original catalogs were available on loose leaf paper or on microfiche. As the years passed, FoMoCo sent the dealers new loose leaf pages. Changing these pages was a b!tch!

The hipoparts.com C/D version of the 1980/89 Ford Light Truck Parts Catalog was scanned from the 1994 loose leaf paper final edition.

The problem with a 1980/86 loose leaf catalog is, not only are there no 1987/89 parts listed, but...

In the late 1980's, FoMoCo changed the package quantity of a gazillion parts.

When the IDIOTS did this, they changed the part numbers suffixes, rendering all the previous part numbers OBSOLETE!

None of these new numbers will be found in a 1980/86 catalog.

btw: My 1989 microfiche catalog has the same description for 1980/84 door panel inserts as the 1994 final edition. All it sez is modify hole for p/w.

Doesn't say if the inserts are rosewood, wormwood or any other kind of wood. 'Course, it's not really wood at all, but Di Noc, decals made by 3M that FoMoCo also used on 1970/90's Country Squires.

One could substitute shelf paper, lots a different types/shades of "wood." Cut to fit, place soapy water on the part, peel the backing off, then apply the paper. Work out the bubbles before the soapy water dries.
 
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