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Old 04-25-2014, 11:53 AM
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Question trailer brake charging

I have an 06 F-350 CC. I bought a new trailer last year and the other day while going over it I found the battery for the brakes to be dead. The trailer has a built in charger for the battery, but when I plug the trailer into the truck it does not show it charging.

I looked in the owners book (for the truck) and it shows a trailer brake charging circuit. The fuse panel has a fuse and a relay where the trailer brake charging should be.

I bought the truck used. It has a flat bed on it and the trailer plug-in was already wired in.

I have not done any other checks, just the fuse and relay. Not sure where to go from here or what the problem might be.

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Old 04-25-2014, 01:19 PM
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Remove the battery and check charge with an "old school" dumb charger. It could charge up but may take a week at a low rate to fully charge. Some chargers have self protection circuitry to prevent charging of a defective or dead battery. They simply won't trip on unless they see a certain minimum voltage, say 8 or 10 volts something like that. The charger on the trailer itself is probably not suitable for really long charging anyway. Keep the electrolyte topped off and monitor the temp-adjusted voltage charts and your voltmeter over the course of a few days and it might be OK.

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most likely the battery is in such a state that it won't accept the charge. I'd recommend a replacement.

You could also check the electrolyte level and it may need some distilled water.
 
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Well it has been a while. I took the battery out of the trailer and charged it last week. It took a charge just fine and I just went out and checked it "fully charged", but I'm still having the same problem as before. When I plug the trailer up to the truck it does not show the battery charging.

Where to go now??
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Do you have the truck running while checking to see if it is charging?
 
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I just went out to double check, just to make sure I wasn't doing something stupid, yes the truck is running.
 
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The battery for the trailer brake backup should be a sealed gel cell, thus there is no maintaining it.

I would check both the plug and the socket for corrosion, dirt or damage. A good clean with some electrical contact cleaner would not hurt.

You can also find a diagram, isolate the pin going to the charger and make sure the voltage output from the truck is where it should be.
 
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Old 08-20-2014, 06:31 PM
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I just went out and checked pin #5 on the truck, 12v+. Well what I got on my DVOM was 9.5-10.7 v. Not sure where I'm loosing the voltage. It is too tight under the flat bed and fuel tank to check the wiring.

I guess at this point, the brakes and lights work (trailer); I'll worry about it some other decade.
 
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You could get by with charging the battery every now and then. I failed inspection on my trailer the other year because of the battery. My trailer tends to sit during the winter so I put a plug on to charge the battery with my standard 110v battery charger. This way I don't have to tear half the trailer apart to get to the battery.
 
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I started messing with this again because the trailer was due for inspection. I didn't know if they would check the battery, so I pulled it all apart and charged it, just in case.

I like your plug and charger idea, I might look into that. Thanks.
 
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I tow two trailers, one that only charges when the marker lights are on (feeds off marker lights despite have 7 way plug, trailer bought new...) and one that chargers from the proper pin on the 7 way.

I'd confirm which method, cause as I found out 7 way plug doesn't guarantee that the battery is actually connected to the charge line.
 
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