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Old Apr 19, 2014 | 06:51 PM
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trouble identifying my engine

Hi im 17 and new to the site and i need some advice! Well i am having trouble identifying my engine. The previous owner knows that the drive train has been replaced and has no idea what engine got put it but i know it came stock with a 360 but if its been changed then that means nothing so i just need to know how to tell what its got under the hood . PS its a 1972 f100 and it has a v8 with a two barrel carb and thats all i know
 
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Old Apr 19, 2014 | 07:04 PM
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5 valve cover bolts per side: FE engines, include 352/360/390.

6 valve cover bolts per side: 221/260/289/302 & 351W

7 valve cover bolts per side: 429/460.

8 valve cover bolts per side: 351C/351M/400.
 
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Old Apr 19, 2014 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
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5 valve cover bolts per side: FE engines, include 352/360/390.

6 valve cover bolts per side: 221/260/289/302 & 351W

7 valve cover bolts per side: 429/460.

8 valve cover bolts per side: 351C/351M/400.
I just looked and and it had five but I ran the code on my exhaust manifold and it told me it was a 428! But could that just be someone put the 428 manifold on a 360 or 390? I'm so confused
 
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Old Apr 19, 2014 | 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by dilmachender
I just looked and and it had five but I ran the code on my exhaust manifold and it told me it was a 428!

But could that just be someone put the 428 manifold on a 360 or 390?
What is the number cast on the manifold?
 
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Old Apr 19, 2014 | 08:08 PM
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What is the number cast on the manifold?
C8AE 9481 B. then below that in upside down letters 2E23
 
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Old Apr 19, 2014 | 08:12 PM
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It's possible that it's a 428 but it has a two-barrel carb.... Only a knucklehead would do that.

Regardless, figure out what ya got: How to ID a 360FE vs 390FE

Tell us if the stroke is more than 3.75 (actualy 3.78). Keep your fingers crossed!
 
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Old Apr 19, 2014 | 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by HIO Silver
It's possible that it's a 428 but it has a two-barrel carb.... Only a knucklehead would do that.

Regardless, figure out what ya got: How to ID a 360FE vs 390FE

Tell us if the stroke is more than 3.75 (actualy 3.78). Keep your fingers crossed!
I don't wanna sound dumb and I'm pretty sure there isn't but is there a way I can check the stroke without taking off the heads? And does a 428 have 5 bolts on the valve cover?
 
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Old Apr 19, 2014 | 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by dilmachender
I don't wanna sound dumb and I'm pretty sure there isn't but is there a way I can check the stroke without taking off the heads? And does a 428 have 5 bolts on the valve cover?
C'mon young man... read the thread linked in my previous post and learn how to do it without removing the head.
 
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Old Apr 19, 2014 | 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by dilmachender
C8AE 9431 B. then below that in upside down letters 2E23
Marked with ID engineering number: C8AE-9431-B = Ford part number: C8AZ-9431-B .. Left Exhaust Manifold / Obsolete

Applications: 1968 Galaxie/LTD 390 & 428 (except Police Cruiser) / 1969/70 Galaxie/LTD 428 Police Cruiser.

2E23 = Service part replacement cast: May (E) 23, 1972 (2).

This does not mean, however that the engine is a 390 or 428. The engine was swapped, so...what size was it originally?

The 4th digit of the VIN is the engine code - 1972 F100: A = 240 I-6 / B = 300 I-6 / G = 302 2V / H = 390 2V / Y = 360 2V

What size is it now? Measuring the stroke will pin it down. 360 = 3.50" / 390 = 3.78" / 428 = 3.98."
 
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Originally Posted by HIO Silver
C'mon young man... read the thread linked in my previous post and learn how to do it without removing the head.
haha thanks man �� I'll do it tomorrow and post what I find. Thanks for the help��
 
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Old Apr 20, 2014 | 02:28 AM
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You're new, so I'm going to give you valuable advice. It'll come across as frank, but there's no other way to say it. If someone on here gives you a link, you read everything in the link before asking any more questions. The guys on here aren't playing around. There's usually a reason they gave you that link. Your answer is often inside.

Also, do as much research as you can before asking questions. Chances are, your question has been asked and documented before. Googling, "Identifying a Ford 428" gives you quite a bit of information.

Lastly, when asking a question, give as much information as possible. Telling us that it's a V8 is only so helpful. There were very many V8s made and still made today. Help us help you. A small description and most especially a photo of what you're talking about will help significantly.

Age is no excuse. You are no younger than I am.
 
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dilmachender, I have found a piece or house wire like 12-2 or 14-2 the white one, is smaller and will work better in the hole. You will need a friend, a socket & pull handle to turn the crank, a Sharpie, and the 8" piece of wire.

There are two ways to do this (with coil wire pulled). This one is easier if you can't get help. On the passenger side remove both the front and rear spark plugs, rotate the engine by hand to get the front piston top dead center using the wire to feel movement. Make a mark on the wire then go to the rear hole and mark it again from the same place and measure the distance between the marks.

Second, friend needed (only way that I done it) remove front spark plug, place wire in the hole, keep a finger on top to push, rest Sharpie on manifold against the wire and have friend rotate it 1 or more rounds. Measure the length of the mark on the wire. You are looking for 3 1/2" or 3 3/4"



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Old Apr 20, 2014 | 04:54 AM
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I used something thick like welding rod last time I did that. Marked off TDC and BDC on the rod with a marker and measured. Simple enough, but I was looking for a difference of 3/4", not 1/4", so I had a bit more leeway.
 
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Old Apr 20, 2014 | 03:32 PM
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thanks for the information

I measured the stroke and it was 3.5 so its a 360! thanks for all the help and i learned a lot
 
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