Oil Filter change question
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There is no real clean way to do it... Just cleaner... And you can do a few things to lessen the chances of an oil bath.
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Okay, I use a much bigger pan, basically I bought a plastic cement mixing tray from the ACE hardware, it is deep enough, and big enough, to easily hold all the oil, and capture any spill from the filter, and even keep the drips at the end contained when the wind is blowing and they don't drop straight. Then I just empty it into an empty 5 gallon oil can, which is easy to transport to dump it at my recycling center.
But it is still a pain when all the oil comes out from the filter.
But it is still a pain when all the oil comes out from the filter.
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I've used a 5 gal bucket, but my extra large 16 qt. oil drain pain is larger than the mouth of a 5 gal pail. and it is easier to dump the used oil back into the 1 gal. containers that way. Several times I have been to the oil recycling place and the dump tank is full. I just leave the containers of oil there...
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I use a 5 gallon bucket as well, dump back into the jugs with a big funnel, then just take the old oil to the local wally world for them to dump.
Hadn't considered that punching the filter wouldn't let all the oil drain, but I guess it is due to the anti drain back valve in the filter.
Really stupid design flaw in the 6.7.
Hadn't considered that punching the filter wouldn't let all the oil drain, but I guess it is due to the anti drain back valve in the filter.
Really stupid design flaw in the 6.7.
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I used to punch a hole in it but I've stopped doing it. All it does is mess up two more tools. There is apparently two layers.
Put it under a 5 gallon bucket, twist it a few times and let it drain. Hold on tight when removing and you'll get it off relatively cleanly...unless you drop that filter in the bucket.
Put it under a 5 gallon bucket, twist it a few times and let it drain. Hold on tight when removing and you'll get it off relatively cleanly...unless you drop that filter in the bucket.
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From: Annandale, VA
I just did my oil change today and did it in reverse order just to be sure.
No more oil comes out of the filter hole with the pan full. Changing the filter by itself will be just fine.
I also put on my Fumoto valve. All kinds of excited to have that little valve.
No more oil comes out of the filter hole with the pan full. Changing the filter by itself will be just fine.
I also put on my Fumoto valve. All kinds of excited to have that little valve.
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My next oil change I'm going to take a large plastic coke bottle and cut the bottom off. I'll then use the bottle to remove the filter by squeezing it against the oil filter while it performs like a funnel to route the oil into the oil pan.
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Do any of you warm the engine a bit before draining the oil? I love having the oil temp screen. I typically warm the oil to 125° before I drain it. This ensures that the oil drains well and it helps it drain faster from the oil filter side. I usually spin the filter a few turns so the flow gets going good and then wait about 5 mins before I take it all the way off. I also use a 5gal bucket and position it to catch the last few drips from both the filter mount and the drain plug.
I always leave a few drops but it's not too bad. Latex gloves are a real help too.
I always leave a few drops but it's not too bad. Latex gloves are a real help too.
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Cargo Master
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For those of you who are thinking of trying the idea of punching a hole in the filter to drain it. Make sure that you first slightly loosen the filter before punching the hole. I had forgot to do this on another vehicle only to find that the filter was on so tight I was afraid that I was going to end up having the vehicle towed to a dealership for filter removal.
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FWIW: I did pass along all the responses here on the filter drip. The owner has wiped down the filter and is keeping an eye on it to see if the drip reappears before going any further into the removal process. He said when he put the filter on he had filled it pretty well to the top of the filter and could see where maybe there had been some excess oil on top of the filter that in time may have run down the sides.
He said to pass along his words of thanks,
He said to pass along his words of thanks,
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Another thing I am considering is just letting wally world do the oil changes. I know what most of you are thinking but this past week while I was on the road I knew I was going to pass my oil change interval so I took my new oil and filter with me, as well as my ramps and drain bucket and was planning to just do the change myself in a parking lot somewhere. But, when I needed to do the change the weather was just too stinkin' cold and the wind was blowing 30-40 mph. So...I stopped in at a walmart along my route and asked them how much it would cost for them to do the change using my oil and filter and they told me it would cost what they charge for an oil change minus the cost of the filter and oil. So I had them do just their basic oil change and I stood there and watched the guy do it, made sure he didn't mess anything up.
Well, they did an okay job and it only cost me $8.48 for their labor!
They even ran the air pressure in the tires and filled the washer fluid.
And I didn't freeze my butt off laying on the ground somewhere doing it myself or even get my hands dirty and didn't have to deal with the old oil.
Well, they did an okay job and it only cost me $8.48 for their labor!
They even ran the air pressure in the tires and filled the washer fluid.
And I didn't freeze my butt off laying on the ground somewhere doing it myself or even get my hands dirty and didn't have to deal with the old oil.
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I used to punch a hole in the filter but, as others have said, it turns out to be be a waste of time since you still get a waterfall of oil down the side of the filter even if you wait an hour. One time I drove the punch at least half way up the filter in the center and for good measure a couple more holes near the edges and it still didn't help. So I don't bother with that anymore.
Instead now I unscrew far enough to allow the waterfall to start and then get about the rest of the business which is draining the oil pan, rotating the tires, changing the fuel filters, and whatever else. By the time that is all done, most of the oil has even dripped off the filter. Then I use a paper towel to wipe it and finally take it off.
Also, I am seriously impressed with those of you who managed to get a new filter on with the old gasket stuck on the block. This happened to me last time and there was no way in heck I could get the threads started with two gaskets. It took me a while to figure out just WTF was going on.
Instead now I unscrew far enough to allow the waterfall to start and then get about the rest of the business which is draining the oil pan, rotating the tires, changing the fuel filters, and whatever else. By the time that is all done, most of the oil has even dripped off the filter. Then I use a paper towel to wipe it and finally take it off.
Also, I am seriously impressed with those of you who managed to get a new filter on with the old gasket stuck on the block. This happened to me last time and there was no way in heck I could get the threads started with two gaskets. It took me a while to figure out just WTF was going on.
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My 0W40 seems to drain better with it cold actually.
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Another thing I am considering is just letting wally world do the oil changes. I know what most of you are thinking but this past week while I was on the road I knew I was going to pass my oil change interval so I took my new oil and filter with me, as well as my ramps and drain bucket and was planning to just do the change myself in a parking lot somewhere. But, when I needed to do the change the weather was just too stinkin' cold and the wind was blowing 30-40 mph. So...I stopped in at a walmart along my route and asked them how much it would cost for them to do the change using my oil and filter and they told me it would cost what they charge for an oil change minus the cost of the filter and oil. So I had them do just their basic oil change and I stood there and watched the guy do it, made sure he didn't mess anything up.
Well, they did an okay job and it only cost me $8.48 for their labor!
They even ran the air pressure in the tires and filled the washer fluid.
And I didn't freeze my butt off laying on the ground somewhere doing it myself or even get my hands dirty and didn't have to deal with the old oil.
Well, they did an okay job and it only cost me $8.48 for their labor!
They even ran the air pressure in the tires and filled the washer fluid.
And I didn't freeze my butt off laying on the ground somewhere doing it myself or even get my hands dirty and didn't have to deal with the old oil.
As long as I can watch them work on it, I would have no problem. And handing them my oil and filter is all the better.
I hate being on the road and having to do service/maintenance.
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