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Old Mar 20, 2014 | 01:19 PM
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EGR Valve: Opens during over boost?

Okay, read this on another forum:

My friend attended a powerstroke diesel class last week. During the class the person doing it mentioned that if you are going to do a EGR delete on a 6.0 you need to install a blow off valve. He said that the 6.0 will open the EGR valve if you over boost and since you deleted the EGR it will lift the heads. He said that the unision ring wears out which will cause the truck to over boost causing the over boost situation.

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Thoughts anyone?
 
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Old Mar 20, 2014 | 01:28 PM
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I've heard the valve can be forced open under higher boost events, but never heard it was by design.

Hence turbo farts out the air filter

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Old Mar 20, 2014 | 07:53 PM
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Sounds like a scare tactic as to why you shouldnt delete the egr. If you think about it though, a blow off valve isnt such a bad idea.
 
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Old Mar 20, 2014 | 09:54 PM
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well what if you do the deleate with the Uppipe

a Full deleate

Maybe all or Nothing


And shouldn't your EBP prevent it Guess not if Stuck Turbo
 
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Old Mar 20, 2014 | 10:02 PM
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The PCM would have to be Programed to save itself with an Overboost

Dumping to much exhaust Back into the Intake would Delute the Boom


The CHA CHA CHA Sounds folks get with a Stuck turbo Makes me think its NOT Setup this Fashion those truck certainly are NOT Trying to save themselves or don't seam to help much
 
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Old Mar 20, 2014 | 10:10 PM
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OverBoost would ALSO Result Lean condition Less POP
 
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Old Mar 20, 2014 | 10:48 PM
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Certainly a scare tactic especially when you consider boost and exhaust pressure.

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Go active command egrdc, vgtdc, rpm and moniter mgp pid. See what happens with vgtdc at 100%, rpm at 1200 while running egrdc up and down.
There is limited truth to the statement. The pcm does in fact use egr to control boost.
The other half that I have seen is how hard it is to get 25 psi boost after a delete, I speculate its do to the improved air flow and now missing scoop in the uppipe.
 
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Originally Posted by cheezit
Go active command egrdc, vgtdc, rpm and moniter mgp pid. See what happens with vgtdc at 100%, rpm at 1200 while running egrdc up and down.
There is limited truth to the statement. The pcm does in fact use egr to control boost.
The other half that I have seen is how hard it is to get 25 psi boost after a delete, I speculate its do to the improved air flow and now missing scoop in the uppipe.
Thanks cheezit. Interesting information.
 
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Sorry to be rooting around in the bone yard.

Did you ever get any more info on this?



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Nope, that was pretty much it.
 
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