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Old Mar 15, 2014 | 10:35 PM
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HID's? OR NORMAL HEADLIGHTS

First i would like to note i do not own the truck yet. im looking at an 83 and ive posted a few threads in the forums with questions i have that i would like to know before i do buy it.

Secondly dose anyone have HIDs in for there trucks do they even make them? I cant even find online what kind of bulb the truck has (So if someone could tell me the number that be great).

Another thing i wanna say is before anyone starts the argument that HIDs blind other drivers on the road the truck im looking at has a 8" lift on 38" rubber, no matter what i have it will blind someone, and i do a heck of a long of late night back road driving and i wanna see the dear in the middle of the road so that is why i want to have good bright *** head lights.

Lastly money... normally i cruse forums for ways to save money ex. ways to help fuel mileage or safety just about anything that's cheap/easy/ and useful but in this case I don't mind spending 150$ on a set of lights because i want the good stuff. obviously i would like so save money so if anyone has an idea to get good bright lights for cheap I'm all ears.

Let me know what you guys do for head lights!
 
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Old Mar 15, 2014 | 10:38 PM
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HERE IS SOME PICTURES OF THE TRUCK
 
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Old Mar 15, 2014 | 11:00 PM
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I'm going to tell you what you don't want to hear: Your callous attitude toward laws meant to protect other drivers is unacceptable. You are obviously young and probably have excellent sight. I'm old and have cataracts that make legal oncoming lights star-shaped and fuzzy, but the illegal HID's cause pain and make features in the road as well as signs disappear for me.

Just because you want to see a "dear" doesn't give you the right to jeopardize my safety. The 8" lift and 38" tires probably have your headlights above the legal max in many states already, so please don't compound that crime with illegal lights. My life is dear to me and I would like to be able to see well enough when we meet to avoid hitting other vehicles or people.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2014 | 11:17 PM
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I am young 18 to be honest and I live in Canada and my laws are different the law states no lights over 8000k so that's all i was going to do. I'm not trying to break the law in any way (My father is an RCMP [a police officer that's for all of Canada]) i do plan on re-adjusting the light so that they do point more at the road, again so i don't hit anything. i want to be safe and I understand you don't want anymore A**holes on the road then there already is. I said "Another thing i wanna say is before anyone starts the argument that HIDs blind other drivers on the road the truck im looking at has a 8" lift on 38" rubber, no matter what i have it will blind someone" because i didnt want to do have this argument because just because i am young you cant say I'm careless you more or less you are saying that most high lifted road trucks are a danger to others on the road.

Lastly I made this thread for some help and opinions so I can see where you stand but I still would like to hear from others possibly someone who has them or knows where I could get some.
 
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Old Mar 16, 2014 | 12:05 AM
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we dont have bulbs.
you buy the whole assembly. i believe they are the same as the chevys. 5x7
 
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Old Mar 16, 2014 | 12:09 AM
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and please take that confederate plate off. someone more like me should have that on his truck since im five minutes from ga.
 
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Old Mar 16, 2014 | 08:08 AM
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Unless you get a lighting assembly that takes a special power supply, you are not getting HID lighting. And down here, I don't think you can buy HID lighting for our trucks that is DOT approved.

So if you buy housings and bulbs that just plug into the regular wiring, you are not getting true HID lighting.
 
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Old Mar 16, 2014 | 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Michel153
I am young 18 to be honest and I live in Canada and my laws are different the law states no lights over 8000k so that's all i was going to do. I'm not trying to break the law in any way (My father is an RCMP [a police officer that's for all of Canada]) i do plan on re-adjusting the light so that they do point more at the road, again so i don't hit anything. i want to be safe and I understand you don't want anymore A**holes on the road then there already is. I said "Another thing i wanna say is before anyone starts the argument that HIDs blind other drivers on the road the truck im looking at has a 8" lift on 38" rubber, no matter what i have it will blind someone" because i didnt want to do have this argument because just because i am young you cant say I'm careless you more or less you are saying that most high lifted road trucks are a danger to others on the road.

Lastly I made this thread for some help and opinions so I can see where you stand but I still would like to hear from others possibly someone who has them or knows where I could get some.
First, HID retrofits to vehicles that didn't come with them are illegal in all of North America, all of Europe and many other countries as well.
Second, just because you may already blind people because of the height (though properly adjusted lights shouldn't), doesn't mean it's cool to make the situation even worse.

Aiming your headlights at the road so you don't blind people actually makes things worse. Too much foreground light lessens your ability to see things at a distance.

So just upgrade your headlight wiring with relays and 12ga wire so you have minimal volt drop which will give you better lighting, get your head lights properly adjusted, then get legal driving lights that are tied in to your high beams. Do those three things and you'll see better, remain legal, and not be a danger to other drivers.
You can also get light assemblies that use H4 bulbs, these would be legal as they are a complete assembly. HELLA 003427291
http://www.myhellalights.com/index.p...sion-headlamp/

Cibie also makes some that can be found here: Daniel Stern Lighting Consultancy and Supply
 
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Old Mar 16, 2014 | 08:39 AM
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Everyone is thinking it..so I'll be the one to say it..I don't think you will get much help, as Gary said, with the "Screw 'em" attitude about the law, here or in Canada. Secondly, I would look up the Merriam-Webster website and spend some time there...
 
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Old Mar 16, 2014 | 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Rovernut
First, HID retrofits to vehicles that didn't come with them are illegal in all of North America, all of Europe and many other countries as well.
Second, just because you may already blind people because of the height (though properly adjusted lights shouldn't), doesn't mean it's cool to make the situation even worse.

Aiming your headlights at the road so you don't blind people actually makes things worse. Too much foreground light lessens your ability to see things at a distance.

So just upgrade your headlight wiring with relays and 12ga wire so you have minimal volt drop which will give you better lighting, get your head lights properly adjusted, then get legal driving lights that are tied in to your high beams. Do those three things and you'll see better, remain legal, and not be a danger to other drivers.
You can also get light assemblies that use H4 bulbs, these would be legal as they are a complete assembly. HELLA 003427291
Thank you this is the kind of info i was looking for!
 
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Old Mar 16, 2014 | 10:37 AM
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I agree with Rovernut. Upgrade the wiring, add relays, H4 lights.

I did this on my 83 Saab with same lights and the difference is amazing. Then I would add some separate driving lights for those really dark roads.
 
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Old Mar 16, 2014 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by IntheTrees
I agree with Rovernut. Upgrade the wiring, add relays, H4 lights.

I did this on my 83 Saab with same lights and the difference is amazing. Then I would add some separate driving lights for those really dark roads.
I'm an engineering student i plan on making my own LED light bars

I also am thinking of making my own switches because I do have a bunch of plans that involve on/off switches so i was thinking of making some fort of cluster but i am not sure where i would put that just yet. I could replace the headlight switch with my own relay switch.
 
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Old Mar 16, 2014 | 01:32 PM
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Now you are talking reasonably. The key is to use the headlight switch to pull in a Bosch-style relay that is out by the headlights - one for the high beams and one for the low beams. Take the feed off of the solenoid, battery side, and fuse it before taking it to the relay.

The issue is that Ford, as did all the manufacturers, used wire that was marginal when new. It is no longer new, nor are the connectors or switches. That means things heat up and lots of power is lost before getting to the lights. In fact, these trucks are basically melt-downs waiting to happen as many of them have already melted the insulation on the wire at the headlight switch. We have people come on here 2 or 3 times a month with the same problem and it usually goes back to the wiring, connectors, and switch(s). So fix it now with relays and install new lamps and you will have good, legal lighting.
 
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Old Mar 16, 2014 | 01:53 PM
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I also am thinking of making my own switches because I do have a bunch of plans that involve on/off switches so i was thinking of making some fort of cluster but i am not sure where i would put that just yet. I could replace the headlight switch with my own relay switch.
You want the relay in the engine compartment and triggered by your current headlight wiring. There are a number of ways to do it, but the simple way is the relays on the right inner fender using a main feed from the hot side of starter solenoid. Use 12ga for the wiring from the relay to the headlight, headlight to ground and 12 or 10 from from the solenoid to the relay. 14 or 16 is plenty from the old headlight connector to activate the relay.

Edit: Gary beat me to it.
 
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Old Mar 16, 2014 | 01:56 PM
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You can use 1/4" male quick-connects to go into the existing headlight connector on the right/passenger's side, which picks up both high and low beam feed that goes to the coil on both relays. Then use new replacement headlight connectors and wire to them.
 
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