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Old Mar 16, 2014 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Michel153
First i would like to note i do not own the truck yet. im looking at an 83 and ive posted a few threads in the forums with questions i have that i would like to know before i do buy it.

Secondly dose anyone have HIDs in for there trucks do they even make them? I cant even find online what kind of bulb the truck has (So if someone could tell me the number that be great).

Another thing i wanna say is before anyone starts the argument that HIDs blind other drivers on the road the truck im looking at has a 8" lift on 38" rubber, no matter what i have it will blind someone, and i do a heck of a long of late night back road driving and i wanna see the dear in the middle of the road so that is why i want to have good bright *** head lights.

Lastly money... normally i cruse forums for ways to save money ex. ways to help fuel mileage or safety just about anything that's cheap/easy/ and useful but in this case I don't mind spending 150$ on a set of lights because i want the good stuff. obviously i would like so save money so if anyone has an idea to get good bright lights for cheap I'm all ears.

Let me know what you guys do for head lights!
I too was facing this same predicament, but eventually settled on the 'right' decision.

Firstly, there is a way to do this:

1. Head over to Truck Parts & Truck Accessories for Chevy, GMC, Ford & Dodge Trucks | LMCTruck.com. They have aftermarket H4 housings that accept any type of H4 bulb. I believe it's on page 66 of their catalog under Custom Lighting.

2. Once you have those aftermarket H4 housings, on that same page at the bottom, grab a set of the upgraded headlight wiring kit. This kit wires directly to your battery and draws power from there, rather than your headlight switch.

3. Once done, now you can do a simple search for some H4 HID kits. I used XenonRider.com - Xenon Rider Automotive Xenon & Bi-Xenon HID (High Intensity Discharge) Headlight Conversion Kits for Cars & Motorcycles to get a set for my Ninja back in the day. They use ballasts and pull quite a bit of power, but are pretty dependable. (I do suggest having lots of fuses handy just incase)

Now here comes the bad news....

Since these aftermarket lights offer ZERO light diffusion, if you put anything higher than a 'factory wattage' bulb in there, it will be bright, and you will exemplify what a typical "bro douchebag" truck is. (Even though it's a classic). Even without the HID's, it will still be mighty bright for anyone, so I would suggest grabbing a few buddies to pass you by in the opposite lane and find out how to properly adjust your headlights so they don't blind oncoming traffic, AND offer you proper visibility.

Onto my 'right' decision...my truck has a 6" lift on it, and i'm still debating what size tires and wheels to use, but my truck will most likely blind some people regardless of what I do. That's why I decided to not go with the HID's, because honestly...i'm getting on close to 30 now, and I don't need to be wrapped up with what the 'younger crowd' is doing. I like driving a vehicle that has HID's, but I sure as hell don't like being met by one driving in the opposite lane

So IF you do decide to go this route, by all means, do yourself and everyone around you a favor and just leave it either A. STOCK, or B. Aftermarket H4 lenses with normal H4 bulbs. Nothing fancy. You'd be surprised at how mature everyone will think you are actually. If all else fails, I would suggest investing in a LED light bar and mount it under your bumper or over your cab, and treat it like a "second highbeam". Those are plenty bright enough, and won't hurt the eyes of oncoming traffic when you turn them off. So please, do us all a favor and don't be an a s s h o l e .
 
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Old Mar 16, 2014 | 11:00 PM
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Thanks guys for the helpful information. I really didn't want to come off as another young reckless kid, I'm sorry for that.

To the man who made fun of my writing skills I would like you to know I have a learning disability that limits my reading and writing skills to around that of a grade 4 student, (Not that its was any of your business) and that I'm putting myself through college and university for engineering. so unless your a Neurosurgeon I don't really need your negative comments i get enough in person from class. Thank you.
 
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Old Mar 16, 2014 | 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by SVTDriver97
I too was facing this same predicament, but eventually settled on the 'right' decision.

Firstly, there is a way to do this:

1. Head over to Truck Parts & Truck Accessories for Chevy, GMC, Ford & Dodge Trucks | LMCTruck.com. They have aftermarket H4 housings that accept any type of H4 bulb. I believe it's on page 66 of their catalog under Custom Lighting.

2. Once you have those aftermarket H4 housings, on that same page at the bottom, grab a set of the upgraded headlight wiring kit. This kit wires directly to your battery and draws power from there, rather than your headlight switch.

3. Once done, now you can do a simple search for some H4 HID kits. I used XenonRider.com - Xenon Rider Automotive Xenon & Bi-Xenon HID (High Intensity Discharge) Headlight Conversion Kits for Cars & Motorcycles to get a set for my Ninja back in the day. They use ballasts and pull quite a bit of power, but are pretty dependable. (I do suggest having lots of fuses handy just incase)

Now here comes the bad news....

Since these aftermarket lights offer ZERO light diffusion, if you put anything higher than a 'factory wattage' bulb in there, it will be bright, and you will exemplify what a typical "bro douchebag" truck is. (Even though it's a classic). Even without the HID's, it will still be mighty bright for anyone, so I would suggest grabbing a few buddies to pass you by in the opposite lane and find out how to properly adjust your headlights so they don't blind oncoming traffic, AND offer you proper visibility.

Onto my 'right' decision...my truck has a 6" lift on it, and i'm still debating what size tires and wheels to use, but my truck will most likely blind some people regardless of what I do. That's why I decided to not go with the HID's, because honestly...i'm getting on close to 30 now, and I don't need to be wrapped up with what the 'younger crowd' is doing. I like driving a vehicle that has HID's, but I sure as hell don't like being met by one driving in the opposite lane

So IF you do decide to go this route, by all means, do yourself and everyone around you a favor and just leave it either A. STOCK, or B. Aftermarket H4 lenses with normal H4 bulbs. Nothing fancy. You'd be surprised at how mature everyone will think you are actually. If all else fails, I would suggest investing in a LED light bar and mount it under your bumper or over your cab, and treat it like a "second highbeam". Those are plenty bright enough, and won't hurt the eyes of oncoming traffic when you turn them off. So please, do us all a favor and don't be an a s s h o l e .
Thank you man i think i will start with the new housings with some good bulbs and see if that's good. Also my 2 cents is to go for 35s on your truck they just seem to fit these trucks nicely that's why I plan on selling the 38s for some 35s. I got a buddy with a rock crawler and asked me to buy the 38s for a more then fair price so i agreed to that and i just wanna get myself a nice set of 35s. I'm leaning towards the BFG mud terrains km2
 
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Old Mar 16, 2014 | 11:19 PM
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We can be quite helpful - especially to those interested in learning about these trucks. And now that we've gotten to know that you are one that is interested and will listen to what others have to say I'm sure we can help each other.

Having said that, you do have to have thick skin around here or someone is likely to wind you up. They pick on me 'cause I'm old, and will surely pick on you for the opposite. Just grin and bear it. They don't have teeth so their bites don't hurt - too badly.
 
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Old Mar 16, 2014 | 11:50 PM
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Thank you. And honestly I'll take an older man's word before a younger because generally your wisdom is stronger. And I normally can take it but it's just that words haunt my life everyday. Trucks is my passion and I love working on them are reading forums and researching them and it just really is the last thing you need when someone trys to turn your get away back into the things your just getting away from. I thank you all again for your help and ideas!
 
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Old Mar 17, 2014 | 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Michel153
Thank you. And honestly I'll take an older man's word before a younger because generally your wisdom is stronger. And I normally can take it but it's just that words haunt my life everyday. Trucks is my passion and I love working on them are reading forums and researching them and it just really is the last thing you need when someone trys to turn your get away back into the things your just getting away from. I thank you all again for your help and ideas!
I've dealt with all types on forums. I've also left forums that had no fun in them. There is a nice balance and a lot of know how here. I'll be looking into the LMC light upgrade too, but most for long huals. At least people here have better grammar than the Toyota boards. Also, most of those old hats are only in their 40's.
 
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Old Mar 17, 2014 | 01:19 AM
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As others have said you will gain a great deal just in upgrading to relays and better wiring. It was one of the first modifications I made to mine, and made a world of difference.
 
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Originally Posted by Gary Lewis
They pick on me 'cause I'm old...
Yeah, that's why I never tell people I'm 58.









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Are these new "housings" the plastic kind with plastic lenses? I am not sure that is a upgrade, myself personally I do not like the plastic housings when after a few years they turn yellow and get foggy from road abrasion.

I thought they had new-fangled regular glass headlights called "silverstars" or something like that. I would think one of those higher output glass headlights along with the relay upgrade would be a nice balance of light output and something that would last.

I am wondering why all the "young bucks" are the ones fiddling with their headlights all the time? It's us "old guys" who can't see their hand in front of their face.
 
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Old Mar 17, 2014 | 08:17 AM
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Amen on the plastic and SilverStars. I would go glass 11 times out of 10, and my SilverStars really helped - although the life on them isn't as long as standard headlights.

Old? There are only a couple on here older than my 67 years, and they only have me beat by a yearish. (I won't say their name, but back then there was only one to go around. )
 
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Amen on the plastic and SilverStars. I would go glass 11 times out of 10, and my SilverStars really helped - although the life on them isn't as long as standard headlights.

Old? There are only a couple on here older than my 67 years, and they only have me beat by a yearish. (I won't say their name, but back then there was only one to go around. )
Is it Joe?
 
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Is it Joe?
Joe who? Nope! Let's just say one knows his numbers and the other knows his carbs.
 
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Originally Posted by Franklin2
Are these new "housings" the plastic kind with plastic lenses? I am not sure that is a upgrade, myself personally I do not like the plastic housings when after a few years they turn yellow and get foggy from road abrasion.

I thought they had new-fangled regular glass headlights called "silverstars" or something like that. I would think one of those higher output glass headlights along with the relay upgrade would be a nice balance of light output and something that would last.

I am wondering why all the "young bucks" are the ones fiddling with their headlights all the time? It's us "old guys" who can't see their hand in front of their face.
Because we can not afford to hit anything! insurance for us is crazy enough let alone fixing the truck!
 
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Old Mar 17, 2014 | 04:10 PM
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Because we can not afford to hit anything! insurance for us is crazy enough let alone fixing the truck!
Ain't that the truth. Dang, I just remembered I need to fix the KC's on the Nissan (my dark highway lights)
 
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