LH FE engine perch
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I know Becky stated in his (?) first post that he did not want to notch his non-P/S mount to acccommodate his new Ford/Saginaw P/S box, and I'm sure he has his reasons, but I notched mine and it works fine without all the aggro of trying to find the scarce modified later mount. For those of you who aren't purists, this can be quite a satisfactory and easy alternative. For what it's worth.
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I agree. The small notch that needs to be cut out, is not going to weaken that tower/support and you won't even notice it. You and guys that really know these motors are the only ones that will know its not factory.
I would be more concerned about strapping the motor down with maybe a heavy cable on that left side. Your motor mounts are the weak link in the support area. In the old days, they didn't call these motors 'Stump Pullers' for nothing. The torque created by some of these FE motors at that left motor mount, can be quit high. I've seen some of these motors jump right out of the saddle and although I've never seem it, I've heard of some flipping over sideways - breaking both motor mounts. I remember one guys motor ripping the headers off the motor when the motor mount didn't hold. They told him not to try and tie it down with just the header bolts. Not only ripped the headers in pieces, but also broke off two of the upper exhaust bolt flanges on the heads.
I would be more concerned about strapping the motor down with maybe a heavy cable on that left side. Your motor mounts are the weak link in the support area. In the old days, they didn't call these motors 'Stump Pullers' for nothing. The torque created by some of these FE motors at that left motor mount, can be quit high. I've seen some of these motors jump right out of the saddle and although I've never seem it, I've heard of some flipping over sideways - breaking both motor mounts. I remember one guys motor ripping the headers off the motor when the motor mount didn't hold. They told him not to try and tie it down with just the header bolts. Not only ripped the headers in pieces, but also broke off two of the upper exhaust bolt flanges on the heads.
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Laughing Gas
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From: Asheville, NC
Thanks everyone for the comments and advice. As I read through it seems that I had reached an erroneous conclusion while researching. I was under the impression that the perch/support was different on P/S and M/S steering trucks throughout the FE run for Ford trucks; however the info supplied in this thread indicates that the perches were the same from 69 on regardless of whether the truck came with P/S or not. That opens up a whole lot of extra opportunity. I will take the perch I have for comparison and revisit the yards. I know I passed a few FE equipped trucks with manual steering by due to my research error.
I am not a concourse correct purist regarding notching/grinding the perch; just have built the engine with a lot of torque as the target and do not want a weakness in the direction of the vector.
Thanks a bunch.
I am not a concourse correct purist regarding notching/grinding the perch; just have built the engine with a lot of torque as the target and do not want a weakness in the direction of the vector.
Thanks a bunch.
Fleet Mechanic
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The 70-72 FE perch is the same manual or power steering.
So you need a left ps specific perch from any year FE equipped pickup except as noted on the 70-72 trucks.
That's how Im understanding it.
You can ID the ps perch because it uses a different mounting hole than the manual perch. When you remove your manual perch you will see the extra mounting hole for the ps perch that your manual perch is covering.
So you need a left ps specific perch from any year FE equipped pickup except as noted on the 70-72 trucks.
That's how Im understanding it.
You can ID the ps perch because it uses a different mounting hole than the manual perch. When you remove your manual perch you will see the extra mounting hole for the ps perch that your manual perch is covering.
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FE perch is the same manual or power steering.
You are misunderstanding it. I assume you failed to read posts 3 & 9.D4TZ-6029-B (replaced C9TZ-6029-A) .. Left Engine Support (aka tower/stand/perch).
Applications: 1969/76 F100/250 2WD & F350 360/390.
1969 was the first year for Ford/Saginaw P/S, because of this, FoMoCo changed the left engine support, but it was used with both M/S & P/S.
The C9TZ part number was updated in 1974 to D4TZ-6029-B
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