That 5.0TT is a pipedream officially but unofficially its being explored according to a thread in the 2015 F150 thread.

 

Ford has some info on their site now also:

The 2015 Ford Expedition | Powerful & Capable | Ford.com

 

I heard they are going to be very proactive and on delivery they will automatically book you in for an appointment 2 years later to come in for the repainting of the bubbling hood and tailgate.

 

I am glad I did not wait for the Expedition and bought an F-150.

My pros and cons on the 2015 Expedition:

Pro:
Ecoboost engine option
Front with led DRL

Con:
Already outdated body, especially side and rear view
Interior with only minor changes

 

I have wanted something (like an Excursion ) to replace my 2001 Expedition 5.4L v-8 with 255,303 miles. I still love my Expedition, and considering having the Engine overhauled and a lower profile super-charger installed for better torque...

However, since 2012, I have been looking at getting a (not giving up my Expy) Ecoboost truck, and in July 2012, I towed my "NOW" boat to the dealership, hooked up the boat to a new Ecoboost F150, and nearly ripped the axles off the trailer. Problem, I wanted limited slip (the test vehicle didn't have it, and they were difficult to locate, but claimed they had one found in Houston, and so I had a deposit on one with limited slip (pulling my 4,000 lb "NOW" boat up the ramp.. which is one of the few times/other than snow, when I use 4x4), before a vacation and long tow of my boat down to Islamorda Key. The truck never arrived, and I towed with my Expy down to the keys 1,700+ miles, and returned (still no truck) and retrieved my check.

2 years later, my Expy isn't getting any younger, and the miles are not getting any fewer, and I have been wanting to purchase an additional vehicle, to tow my future/dream boat (31' Foutain Sportfish).

Last month, I was told by 1st dealer that they had NO details on the Expedition Ecoboost, except that it wouldn't even be available until 'long after' 2015.

I don't know that I can wait that long, and I thought I would take advantage of Ford Truck Month, and called a 2nd dealer, (where I first made the deposit on the ecoboost truck) and they had a truck on the lot, and I wasn't impressed. "Same as the 2014"... which stinks, because the interior was full of plastic.. The salesman told me he was working the DFW autoshow on Wednesday, and let it slip that he heard the new Expedition was going to be there (he didn't mean to do that.. as that is what I wanted).

I show up to the DFW autoshow on Friday night, and "NO ONE" knew anything about this truck. What does Debut mean?. I paid $36 for my wife, my youngest son, and myself to enter the show and have these questions addressed, and be able to review the truck. I wasn't even allowed to get inside the vehicle, and couldn't see any of the back of the Ecoboost Expy, due to the tinted windows.

Ford has really Peeved me, and I'm now looking at getting a 2005 Excursion, or leaving Ford all together (don't know if I can live without that Key code around the door... as I really do appreciate that). They don't have enough customer courtesy to address the questions of a "6 time Ford owner", 4 of them purchased new from the dealer!!!

 

FIFY. Anyone who's driven a 6.2 powered F-150 after a Eco would realize that this move is going to suck. Running them side by side I've watched a 6.2 return better fuel economy and power than a ecoboost running down the highway towing and empty. This move made my next truck an easy choice to move over to a Yukon Denali, while it will suck loosing the two speed transfercase not having a suspect and underpowered engine will make it an easy switch.

 

I encourage all of you to go to YouTube and watch the "Ike Gauntlet" towing tests for the 1/2 ton trucks. Fast lane Truck did the tests. They were not scientific but they were out west and hooked insane weight to the trucks and tested brake temps, fuel mileage, and time from bottom to top of 10,000-11,000 elevation. The Ecoboost F150 beat them all. They had to let off the gas due to a self imposed 60 mph limit. The NA trucks stayed on the floor the entire trip. I have a 5.0 F150 and it is fabulous. But the ECO is the towing champ. It even destroyed GM's new 6.2. Get educated if you are not on the ECO. I personally think it's a great marriage with the expy. Our 08 has 3.31 gears and the 5.4 struggles with it on the hills in WV. It does fine in the south on trips. The ECO torque curve is insanely flat and could pull the 3.31 gear just fine allowing fuel mileage gains potentially. Very diesel like. I know it's a v6 but it doesn't drive like one. I didn't need the towing power when I bought my truck so I saved the premium with the 5.0. It is a fantastic engine. And it tows good too. I just hauled the expy (had a VCT go bad) on a 16 ft car hauler to the dealership and even with 35" Trail Grapplers the 5.0 towed fantastic. The Eco is better. Don't dismiss it.

 

I'm in the Ecoboost camp too.

Nobody would question the towing credentials of a '97 F250HD with a 460, 5-speed, and 4.10 gears. I think my '07 Navi L pretty well matches its capabilities though. In fact, while it's comparable in power it's got better steering and brakes so I'd rather hook up to the Navi.

My 2011 Lincoln MKS has Ecoboost and I've given it an attitude adjustment with a tune from LMS. Now my family car has a 12.97 timeslip and outruns my buddy's 2014 Mustang GT in the 1/8 mile drag. Yeah, a 411hp Mustang losing to a V6 automatic 4-door Lincoln.

While I find my '07 adequately powered (especially if you are aggressive with the pedal to take full advantage of the lower gear ratios in the 6-speed) the Ecoboost appeal could make a buyer out of me.

Oh, final irony. I'm restoring my first car... a '78 Mercury Marquis with a 460, rated at 197 hp from the factory. I just leased a go-cart... a new Ford Fiesta ST with a little Ecoboosted 1.6... making the same 197 hp as the 7.5 liter in the Mercury! (Although admittedly the torque is no match for the old big block, but still...1.6 vs 7.5!).

 

I had a 2007 Expedition.
I now have a 2013 F-150 with the Ecoboost. It feels like a rocket compared to the Expedition.

Only the speed limit holds me from not turning circles around the dummy's in the Rams that are speeding.

 

I don't tow in the western mountains and could care less what the ecoboost does under ideal conditions for it. I care what it does in FL/GA/AL/LA. Ecoboosts can't take humidity and have major power drops once temps hit 95+ and humidity jumps to 90% plus. I have seen first hand ecos get their *** handed to them by both GM 6.2 and Ford 6.2s towing and unloaded. Talk to some airboat guys and see how much they like their ecoboosts.

I noticed you are comparing the 6.4 to the Ecoboost in that video. Everyone knows the stock 6.4 is inferior and also was designed 4 years prior to the ecoboost. That's a great comparison of apples and orange. Let's also see Tom ecoboost control that load in an emergency maneuver. He talks a great game about his ecoboost, I think he even believes he can out tow KWs, Petes and Western Stars.

Oh...didn't he just have to get his rear end replaced because he's been screwing around trying to pull stunts like that? Wonder how many rear ends those super duty trucks have gone through?

 

Let me understand this. Your saying an ECO has a power loss at 95 degrees and high humidity? And other engines don't suffer the same? I am at a loss where you are referencing the 6.4. I assume powerstroke. Not sure if someone else mentioned it in this thread but I mentioned the test between half tons. But 400+ lbft starting at a low rpm makes for effortless power regardless if your towing a trailer or moving a 6K lb Expedition around. And to be honest, most people aren't buying an Expedition to drag race. The flaw in the F150 is a well known intercooler condensation issue. I hope the Expy doesn't have that problem. As far as airboat guys go, I don't know any. But I do know Eco owners and they are more than satisfied. In extreme conditions that those guys tested, the ECO destroyed the 6.2 GM. The same guys tested the 6.2 Ford, 6.2 GM and the Ram with the 8 speed on a flat ground test. The Ford 6.2 held its own. But the GM was a tad bit faster. They had to try twice. I didn't make the video- just offered it for those of you that were interested to draw your own conclusions.

 

true enough that it isn't even remotely funny

too little
too late

Ford didn't change anything. they took a 2013/2014 Expy and slapped a new motor in it. There isn't anything groundbreaking or amazing for the 2015 Expy. Just another trim level and only the 1 motor.

That 1 motor selection is going to drive sales over GM and Dodge. Alot of people are going to have issues paying the premium that the EB 3.5 is going to add to the cost of the Expy. My 2008 Expy EL Limited had a $50k sticker price...in 2009. I can only imagine what a 2015 with EB motor and Limited trim will run.

I made the swap to my Caddy and ain't looking back. My "tired" and old 2005 6.0 will walk circles around a 5.4 3v, and it more than holds it own STOCK against all these new fangled trucks with the EB motor. Ford lost me as a customer due to issues with my previous Expy and Flex. I can't see giving them $40-50,000 for a design that's been around since late 2006. Changing the grille/heads/bumpers and putting a new motor in just isn't enough to call it a new model. And especially can't see giving them another penny with all the Quality Assurance problems Ford has with their paint.

 

I agree. The Expy is a tired design. They put little effort in to it since 2003.

 

[quote=Tylus;14113277]true enough that it isn't even remotely funny


Here's another good one.. I hope they implement a driveway repaving program as well. For the second time a leaking axle seal has ruined my driveway. The best part was, I was not aware of it because I had snow on my driveway until the other day it melted and I was horrified to see a large group of oil stains far worse than what I had the first time this happened!!

 

So I showed my wife the 2015 article and pics

She didn't see anything different either from our 2008 Expy. She did say she liked the headlights

So if my non-car type person wife is that way...what was Ford hoping to accomplish by saying the 2015 models are new?