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Old Mar 6, 2014 | 10:53 AM
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Do you have a link to these pictures? Your garage page and gallery are both empty.
 
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Old Mar 6, 2014 | 11:08 AM
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Thumbs up ENGINE WOES

yes if you go to my profile and see albums marked '' MY TRUCK'' they are in there. there are three of them showing 2 engine blocks and 1 cylinder head. as i said in my first post, the second block is the closest to mine, as well as the head. hope you can find them, if not i'll try to make a link to them. thanks T.C.M.
 
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Old Mar 6, 2014 | 11:21 AM
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Here is the link: Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums - truck crazy man's Album: My Truck

It would seem that you do indeed have a mismatched head and block, but I'll leave that call to someone more familiar with the 4.9L.
 
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Old Mar 6, 2014 | 11:39 AM
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Thanks again for your help and advice. T.C.M.
 
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Old Mar 6, 2014 | 11:40 AM
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Hey guys and of course gals, i hope this give you a better idea of what i'm up against. If you to my album you find three pics of what i uploaded from a few sites i've searched up. When you view these pics you will get a better understanding of what i'm trying to explain about the head gasket not matching both parts. comparing these pics with my engine, it seems like someone just slapped a bunch of parts together to my a engine and hoped for the best that it would work. now i'm left to untangle this mess. so if someone could please take the time and look at these pics and give me an idea or opinon,or advice of what my options are, would be great. in my mind i don't think this is going to work out wit the 2 different parts. by looking at theses pics, do you think this was the cause of the gasket failure? i don't understand how the system could circulate with those pots sealed up. maybe i'm looking at it wrong, thanks for your time and advice on this matter. T.C.M.
When you say Album do you mean your gallery? because it's empty.

Also you stated: "when i place the gasket on the block, it matches perfect, but when i do the same for the head, 1 or more of the coolant ports are blocked"

So if the gasket fits the block "Perfectly" but there are cooling passages blocked when you put the gasket to the head, then what good would it do to cut gasket material away? If you open the passages on the head by cutting the gasket, where is the coolant going to go in the block? I'd think it would still be blocked off or by cutting the material away, it would then be able to run into maybe the oil passages.

So Just my rudimentary way of thinking is that if the passages in the head don't match the passages in the block then you have a wrong head.
Were you able to get the numbers off the block to give you and idea of what year the motor actually is?
 
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Old Mar 6, 2014 | 11:50 AM
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When you say Album do you mean your gallery? because it's empty.
Link posted in post #63.
 
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Old Mar 6, 2014 | 11:59 AM
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still working on that, judging by the state of the engine block, i don't think it belongs to my 95. it seems a lot older then that. do you know where exactly on the block the casting numbers would be? i've cleaned a few places on the engine but found nothing. maybe i'm not looking in the right area. maybe someone on here would have a pic or diagram of where it could be. thanks. T.C.M.
 
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Old Mar 6, 2014 | 12:24 PM
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Here is the link: Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums - truck crazy man's Album: My Truck

It would seem that you do indeed have a mismatched head and block, but I'll leave that call to someone more familiar with the 4.9L.
Your showing a picture of a head for a 87 to 96 ford 300 six.

The picture of the block you linked to is an image of a BMW M20B25 engine with the cylinder head removed, we need to see a picture of your block with the head off not one of some engine you found on the internet.

Based on what I see so far and until I see more it appears that you're all worked up about nothing.

If it wasn't the right head you'd never bolt it on to start with. The water pump is mounted in the block high and in front, coolant is pumped up into the head near the front circulated through it for pretty much for its entire length then back down into the block, returning to the radiator start over again..It is going to originate and return on one side of the head as the push rods take up the area on the other side...some deviation of that but basically that's gonna be it.

Not sure didn't look into it but appears the BMW M20B25 is a OHC type engine...but again I didn't check and am in no way familiar with one.
 
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Old Mar 6, 2014 | 01:11 PM
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I don't think that's no BMW block, but it does look to be a 1985 or older block. You're right about the head, it's 87-97. I could be wrong though. I had an 86 F150 and the block looks really close.

Did you get the ID numbers off the block yet? That's really the only way you're going to find out at this point.
 
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Old Mar 6, 2014 | 01:22 PM
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I agree with danr1, look at the block and see there ain't anywhere for the pushrods. Now whether it's a BMW block or not... I can't say. I don't work on foreign engines unless I have to lol.

That other pic of a block looks like a 300.
 
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Old Mar 6, 2014 | 01:45 PM
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I don't think that's no BMW block...
Originally Posted by dixie460
I agree with danr1, look at the block and see there ain't anywhere for the pushrods. Now whether it's a BMW block or not... I can't say. I don't work on foreign engines unless I have to lol.


Wikipedia would seem to think so. That picture sure looks familiar.

Straight-six engine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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Old Mar 6, 2014 | 02:00 PM
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I couldn't say for sure either have zero experience with BMW engines, according to this page it is.

Straight-six engine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Wiki wrong? yea known to but if look it up it matches a m20 series OHC engine.

Apparently no one has ever taken a clear picture of a 87 tru 96 300 six with its head off, I searched every which way could think nothing that actually states that it is a 9th generation image.

White Max post while I looked little bit more...
 
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Old Mar 6, 2014 | 05:42 PM
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I'm sorry but the blue engine in that pic is in fact a ford engine, as for the other one , i didn't notice it wasn't ford for i was on a ford site when i found this engine. the only reason i put these pics up is because i'm having a little trouble uploading my pics, everytime i try to do so it for some reason deleates itself. so i found the next best thing. even though the second engine may not be a ford, it's very simular to the lay of mine, and that was all i was trying to do was trying to explain better of what the problem was. if you could put the pic of the cylinder head and the second engine side by side, it almost lines up perfectly. but this should give some idea of what i'm talking about, and i will try again to post some pics of my engine up. when i can you will see just how simular my engine is to that one.

I asked in my last post if anyone could help direct me to where to find the casting numbers on the engine block. maybe post a pic or diagram showing where it is. maybe this block is so rusty and dirty, that i may not be able to find it. but if i had a little help i might be able to. thanks again. T.C.M.
 
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Old Mar 6, 2014 | 06:16 PM
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Image of engine painted blue didn't show in your album when I opened it, not sure why perhaps due to time stamp showing that image being added some 40 minutes later than the other two.

Regardless we need to see images of the motor you have, images you find on the internet are useless as pertains to the issue you have.

We need to see your head, your block and the head gasket that you bought for it. pictures other than that are a waste of time.

Upload the images to a free hosting site such as Photobucket, link to them here in a post. Use the "insert image" feature top of the reply window. Make sure they are big enough to see but not to large to fit the window.

Myself I use the 1024x768 option, large enough to see easy yet not blow out the board.
Upload then in "links to share this photo" click on the entry in the box following "Direct", it will show yellow "Copied" then go back to the reply window click on the insert image link, right click on "http://" already in the box then click "paste". Make sure you leave http:// highlighted so it will be replaced by and and with the complete url for your picture you copied from PB.
And your picture (doing so for each picture you wish to share) they will show in your post, no need to link to them no need to re size etc you'll see them in your preview window so you can make sure they appear as you wish, then once you see they do just hit "Post quick reply".
 
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Old Mar 13, 2014 | 01:33 PM
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Any updates or pictures of what's going on with the head and gasket? Any casting numbers?
 
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