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Old Feb 9, 2014 | 12:54 PM
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Ford Power Steering Improvements?

I've driven some old slicks with power steering and I find it a white knuckle ride at best. I know the design is old but I'm looking for experiences/ideas to improve it. The stock power steering reacts too quickly and can be unnerving in emergency maneuvers on the freeway. I noticed that some kits are offered with GM pumps. The proportioning can easily be changed in the GM pumps.

Without swapping in a different front clip; has anyone improved the Ford power steering? Tricks of the trade?
 
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Old Feb 9, 2014 | 03:47 PM
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Nope.

Don't reduce the pressure as it will degrade the seals. Switch to a Chevy pump and bracket for a tighter feel.

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Old Feb 9, 2014 | 04:34 PM
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My 65 2wd was manual steering before I swapped to a 79 4x4 chassis. What type of steering assist does your truck have, is it a power piston setup off the pitman arm like the early mustangs?
 
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Old Feb 9, 2014 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by dsrtjeeper
I've driven some old slicks with power steering and I find it a white knuckle ride at best. I know the design is old but I'm looking for experiences/ideas to improve it. The stock power steering reacts too quickly and can be unnerving in emergency maneuvers on the freeway. I noticed that some kits are offered with GM pumps. The proportioning can easily be changed in the GM pumps.

Without swapping in a different front clip; has anyone improved the Ford power steering? Tricks of the trade?
i do know what your talking about, at first power steering seems very touchy, but i have had my PS swap done for a year now and i can say i really like it! you are used to a 50 year old manual steering box that has play in the system, you will get used to the different feel of driving with a power box right quick if you do swap over. it's worth it IMO.
 
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Old Feb 9, 2014 | 05:53 PM
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i do know what your talking about, at first power steering seems very touchy, but i have had my PS swap done for a year now and i can say i really like it! you are used to a 50 year old manual steering box that has play in the system, you will get used to the different feel of driving with a power box right quick if you do swap over. it's worth it IMO.
I also drive a Jeep and the steering isn't so twitchy as the Ford steering. Maybe the ones I drove were out of alignment? I just turned the wheel a tad and the truck would dart that direction. It's as if the ratio is wrong or the Ford pump is sending a heck of a lot of pressure to the box immediately. If I had to make a quick evasive maneuver with Ford power steering; I think I'd shoot across three lanes of traffic and end up in your yard Bill!

Since we all know that I'm the village mooch; I say we have a steering swap party at my place. (Hint Hint!)
 
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Old Feb 9, 2014 | 05:55 PM
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Nope.

Don't reduce the pressure as it will degrade the seals. Switch to a Chevy pump and bracket for a tighter feel.

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Ok. I never knew that. I think it's time to make the switch. I still have your tie down here and keep forgetting to bring it over.
 
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Old Feb 9, 2014 | 06:06 PM
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i say before you jump in with both feet, next time we meet up you can drive my truck and see if it's any different than other trucks you have driven.
 
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Old Feb 9, 2014 | 07:10 PM
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i say before you jump in with both feet, next time we meet up you can drive my truck and see if it's any different than other trucks you have driven.
Fair enough Bill. Thanks.
 
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This would be cool

AutoTraderClassics.com - Article Upgrade Your Vintage Ford’s Steering
 
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Old Feb 10, 2014 | 10:28 AM
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I think a "twichy" steering is caused by an alignment issue. I'd check that first. When I first converted my slick and took it for a quick ride around the block it was not drivable. All new or re manufactured components. A visit to the alignment shop cured all drive ability issues. I'd wager the toe is not correct. Any tire shop should be able to check chamber and castor and set the toe. If chamber and castor are out a specialty shop will bend the IBeams to get that right. Toe is a no brainer.
 
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Old Feb 10, 2014 | 09:34 PM
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Good reading

Touchy steering addressed on bottom of page 1.

Perfect Power Steering - Custom Classic Trucks Magazine
 
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I used a P/S box off a 89 Toyota on my 66 F100 4x4; it uses a P/S pump off a late 70's Ford truck. Works great, very smooth.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2014 | 12:35 PM
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Great article! I remember reading that a while back. Didn't pay enough attention then. I wish I'd known about converting the O ring deal to a flare fitting. I had to pay for chopping and splicing a couple of lines to get an O ring line connected to my Ford box. Next time I'll know better. After any serious front end work it is a good idea to have the alignment checked. IMHO.
 
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Originally Posted by bertha66
I used a P/S box off a 89 Toyota on my 66 F100 4x4; it uses a P/S pump off a late 70's Ford truck. Works great, very smooth.
1965/77 Ford P/S pumps have a steel reservoir, the P/S pressure hose threads on.

1978: Ford changed the P/S pump on everything except Econolines and Passenger Cars with Hydro-Boost that use the Saginaw pump.

This new Ford pump has a plastic reservoir, it's also a different shape than the steel reservoir pump. The P/S pressure hose connects to the pump w/a qwik connect fitting.

Since this pump was introduced in 1978 and FE engines were cancelled after the end of the 1976 model run, there are no FE P/S pump mounting brackets that will fit.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2014 | 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
1965/77 Ford P/S pumps have a steel reservoir, the P/S pressure hose threads on.

1978: Ford changed the P/S pump on everything except Econolines and Passenger Cars with Hydro-Boost that use the Saginaw pump.

This new Ford pump has a plastic reservoir, it's also a different shape than the steel reservoir pump. The P/S pressure hose connects to the pump w/a qwik connect fitting.

Since this pump was introduced in 1978 and FE engines were cancelled after the end of the 1976 model run, there are no FE P/S pump mounting brackets that will fit.
Yes, it was a a 76 pump; steel pump. Took the pressure line and cut the metric fitting off and put on a sae fitting; taht way the Ford pump supplies pressure to the Toyota box.
 
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