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Old Jan 25, 2014 | 10:09 AM
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The guy next door has a 2006 F-250 6.0 with around 140. Looks like it had an egr delete and 4" Down pipe. Also, has a 58v FICM.

Said that he had some rough starts in the cold, but once the truck warms up he is fine. However, Thursday he went to get something at a convince store and when he came back truck wouldn't start. He said the truck wasn't quite warmed up when he went in.

ICP wasn't getting over 270 psi. I helped him listen for a leak and without commanding the ipr closed testing through the icp port it sounded like the passengers side was leaking. I told him to replace the old style stand pipe and dummy plugs on that side.

He (despite my advice) was able to start truck with brake clean and drove it for 15 minutes. Right before he pulled back in the truck died again.

I am going to do the stand pipe and dummy plugs for the drivers side but he told me that the truck was charging at 13.8 volts and the FICM went down to 42 V . What voltage should a 58v FICM read and shouldn't batteries charge at around 14.5v?
 
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Old Jan 25, 2014 | 10:27 AM
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The stock alternators probably don't do much better than 13.8V.

Personally, I think that you should do both sides - if the dummy plug on the drivers side is leaking, then it is probably going to do so soon on the other side.

Maybe someone else knows specifically about the 58V FICM, but quite frankly ANY FICM that drops to 42V is bad. Where did he get it?

Unless he bought it from BulletProofDiesel, I would not feel comfortable w/ a 58V FICM. That voltage can reduce the reliability ..... unless the unit was truly upgraded to handle it.
 
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Old Jan 25, 2014 | 09:30 PM
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Well we did the other side and still not starting unless it sits outside Iin this beautiful 10° weather. Got up to 390 PSI at its highest. Since we weren't really hearing a leak just air moving I tried to pull the IPR. He had a NAPA Gold oil filter and someone's rag??? In the oil housing. The oil filter had started to fall apart and bits of plastic were in the hoising. When we tried to pull the ipr it separatedand now hhalf of it is stuck in the HPOP housing :/ Any ideas on how to get that out without removing the turbo?
 
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Old Jan 25, 2014 | 09:39 PM
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Can't help you there, but have you considered that there is trash in the injectors also??
 
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Old Jan 25, 2014 | 10:16 PM
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What part come off? The solenoid with the tin cover? Did the hex come off and the threaded part still in or did the screen stay in there?

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Old Jan 25, 2014 | 10:19 PM
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The hpop intake screen should prevent the debris from entering the hpo system if it is intact.

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Old Jan 27, 2014 | 12:34 PM
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I got it out with some chanel locks. Not sure if this went back together tight enough the 1st piece was stuck in the housing the 2nd piece came out. I screwed them back together the best I could. How close should they be? Can I re use this IPR?

I ordered the IPR plug from Accurate diesel so I can pressurize the the system. Apparently you can leave pressure in the system overnight and monitor pressure with the ICP.

IPR valve moved with a little pressure from the spring. Seemed clean inside, small holes in the screen but barely noticiable.

ICP reads around 7 psi after I had been cranking for a while and left the key on and the engine off.
 
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Old Jan 27, 2014 | 12:48 PM
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you found a Rag in the oil filter housing WTF
 
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Old Jan 27, 2014 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by BLADE35
you found a Rag in the oil filter housing WTF
Double filtered, down to 10 microns that way LOL

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Old Jan 27, 2014 | 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Bullitt390
Double filtered, down to 10 microns that way LOL

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HAHAHA

Wow never thought of it that way

Must be a New Mod

Any Particular Thread count or Cotton or Silk type Rage we should use
 
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Old Jan 27, 2014 | 02:15 PM
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Local lube shop installed this. Same shop that drained the trans instead of the motor and put double the amount of oil in the engine. They left the trans without oil in a brand new subaru. But anyway this is why you use OEM filter!
 
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Old Jan 27, 2014 | 02:17 PM
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Double filtered, down to 10 microns that way LOL

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Nothing says 'gourmet' quite like double distilled.
 
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Old Jan 27, 2014 | 03:10 PM
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wow maybe you better post name of said shop

sounds like they Break more then fix
 
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Old Jan 27, 2014 | 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by 78fordman
The hpop intake screen should prevent the debris from entering the hpo system if it is intact.

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Unfortunately those screens have been known to fail - hence the improved design.

Also unfortunately - it sounds like the oil filter may not have been doing its job and it is certainly designed to do a MUCH better job of filtering than the HPOP intake screen (ie 20 micron)!
 
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Old Jan 27, 2014 | 09:51 PM
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Yea oil filter didn't cause the hot start but pretty bad that napa sells such a terrible product and that there are such careless techs out there.
 
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