An Engine Disassembly Thread
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That does suck JP. But, think of it this way, you're having bad luck with them bolts, but if you wouldn't have done this now, you would have had to tackle them sometime in the truck after install once leaks developed. That would have really sucked. Best to get as much of that kind of pain in the a$$ stuff done while its on the stand.
I'm trying to think positive for you!
You'll get it done.
I'm trying to think positive for you!
You'll get it done.Though, actually, if I'm going to do two new, I might as well do SD ones and give myself more turbo options, right?
Edit: interesting - Rockauto has the sd DS manifold for just $44 bucks. No PS one listed though for a 2000 f350, though - weird.
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Sorry to hear of your troubles JP. You will get it, I've had many days where I was frustrated beyond and walked away and came back.
Food for thought: just imagine how proud you will be when this is all done. There's just somthing about the satisfaction of doing it yourself. You'll get there and you have all of us to coach and cheer you on!
Food for thought: just imagine how proud you will be when this is all done. There's just somthing about the satisfaction of doing it yourself. You'll get there and you have all of us to coach and cheer you on!
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Yeah, crappy day at work. Crappy day in the barn. The first is much more common than the second, but the worst is when they happen on the same day. Def time for a few cold ones tonight.
I appreciate it. Yeah, better now than later. I'm just not sure I want to go through the trouble with the DS manifold at all. There is NO WAY the bolts will ever loosen. If the manifold ever cracks, or otherwise leaks, I'm thinking I'll just deal with it if it happens. Though by the same token, Rockauto has dorman manifolds with gaskets for $95 each. It'd be nice to have a brand new pair in there. Anyone know of a source to get decent priced OEM ones?
Though, actually, if I'm going to do two new, I might as well do SD ones and give myself more turbo options, right?
Edit: interesting - Rockauto has the sd DS manifold for just $44 bucks. No PS one listed though for a 2000 f350, though - weird.
I appreciate it. Yeah, better now than later. I'm just not sure I want to go through the trouble with the DS manifold at all. There is NO WAY the bolts will ever loosen. If the manifold ever cracks, or otherwise leaks, I'm thinking I'll just deal with it if it happens. Though by the same token, Rockauto has dorman manifolds with gaskets for $95 each. It'd be nice to have a brand new pair in there. Anyone know of a source to get decent priced OEM ones?
Though, actually, if I'm going to do two new, I might as well do SD ones and give myself more turbo options, right?
Edit: interesting - Rockauto has the sd DS manifold for just $44 bucks. No PS one listed though for a 2000 f350, though - weird.
I hope you had a few cold ones last night and got to relax. Good luck bud.
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The SD manifolds won't matter on turbo options. Gives you the option for cheaper bellowed up pipes though. The SD one that Rich posted on another thread were only a little over $200.
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Sorry to hear of your troubles JP. You will get it, I've had many days where I was frustrated beyond and walked away and came back. Food for thought: just imagine how proud you will be when this is all done. There's just somthing about the satisfaction of doing it yourself. You'll get there and you have all of us to coach and cheer you on!
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Def had a few. Prob a few too many as I slept later than intended ;-). I do feel more motivated and ready to tackle that other manifold today though. I def should do it for the long term. Def mounting the new ones with studs, though!
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Also, Bronco Graveyard has SD up-pipes with SD Collecter for like $200 - I think they refer to them as 'crossover pipes or something'. Looks like those are Dorman as well. I prob can't make my own for cheaper...
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Ok, got the DS manifold cut off and all bolt remnants extracted this morning and glad I did - there was def an exhaust leak at cylinder 6.
Pics and more to come tomorrow, but for now - thanks to you guys for not letting me leave that sucker in place!
Pics and more to come tomorrow, but for now - thanks to you guys for not letting me leave that sucker in place!
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That's great JP, I was starting to feel bad for trying to talk you into removing it. I just know how much of a PITA mine were to do in the truck. Finding that exhaust leak made you feel better I'm sure but it was inevitable that you would have a leak in the near future.
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That's great JP, I was starting to feel bad for trying to talk you into removing it. I just know how much of a PITA mine were to do in the truck. Finding that exhaust leak made you feel better I'm sure but it was inevitable that you would have a leak in the near future.
Glad you got it JP!
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Don't feel bad, guys. It was died the right thing to do. Even if I didn't find a leak immediately. I know what you mean, though.
I was thinking if trying to find used manifolds, but am thinking ill prob just do brand SD manifolds and up pipes from dorman. Manifolds are just $150 for both and up pipes are only ~$200. I may come out cost neutral or ahead compared to buying obs bellows. Or save lots of time compared to bellowing my one pipes.
Still need to decide on turbo before pulling the trigger.
I was thinking if trying to find used manifolds, but am thinking ill prob just do brand SD manifolds and up pipes from dorman. Manifolds are just $150 for both and up pipes are only ~$200. I may come out cost neutral or ahead compared to buying obs bellows. Or save lots of time compared to bellowing my one pipes.
Still need to decide on turbo before pulling the trigger.
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I'm glad to hear you got it all apart JP. I'm sure you're glad now that you did it.
If you're going to replace both manifolds and plan on a different turbo, I see no reason not to use the less expensive SD parts. That would open up the possibilities for other turbos as well (D66, 38R, etc) and you could still just as easily go with an aftermarket setup. I would advise you to go for the bellowed uppipes while you're at it too, since the original design is just a leak waiting to happen.
If you're going to replace both manifolds and plan on a different turbo, I see no reason not to use the less expensive SD parts. That would open up the possibilities for other turbos as well (D66, 38R, etc) and you could still just as easily go with an aftermarket setup. I would advise you to go for the bellowed uppipes while you're at it too, since the original design is just a leak waiting to happen.
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I'm glad to hear you got it all apart JP. I'm sure you're glad now that you did it. If you're going to replace both manifolds and plan on a different turbo, I see no reason not to use the less expensive SD parts. That would open up the possibilities for other turbos as well (D66, 38R, etc) and you could still just as easily go with an aftermarket setup. I would advise you to go for the bellowed uppipes while you're at it too, since the original design is just a leak waiting to happen.
I know I'm going to get some backlash on this one, but I'm actually thinking of using the stock sd turbo (gtp38, right) I have sitting on the shelf - someone gave it to me for nothing. I'm well aware of the surge issues, but considering the new manifolds and up pipes I need anyway, all I need is a pedestal to make it work. Plus I believe such a pedestal makes it much easier to change/upgrade turbos later. So, I'm thinking: go with the free turbo for now, spend the money elsewhere (HPOP, sticks, sprinngs, rods, etc) and see how it works out. From what I read, if surge becomes a problem, all it does is cook the turbo, at which point I would upgrade. Anyway - don't everybody jump on me at once for even bringing up the use of an sd turbo, it it seems that it may ale sense for me here money-wise. Plus, I'll star another rebuild thread where I'll lay out all my parts plans, so feel free to give it too me, then :-)