EASY......RIGHT?
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I apologize-need to get used to specifics with Ford.
truck: 85 f-250 4wd 4sp / engine: 460 '71 Lincoln block casting number: D1VE-6015-A2B
bell housing ID number: D7TA-7505-AD
flywheel: 184 tooth
1st 3 starters-460, broke of nose of starter (started about 3 times each)
9 inch clutch
4th starter-351M, stripped gear on starter-not the teeth, starter engaged/spun (started about 10 times)
5th starter-351M, ground teeth off flywheel after 4 starts
truck: 85 f-250 4wd 4sp / engine: 460 '71 Lincoln block casting number: D1VE-6015-A2B
bell housing ID number: D7TA-7505-AD
flywheel: 184 tooth
1st 3 starters-460, broke of nose of starter (started about 3 times each)
9 inch clutch
4th starter-351M, stripped gear on starter-not the teeth, starter engaged/spun (started about 10 times)
5th starter-351M, ground teeth off flywheel after 4 starts
Block casting number: D1VE-6015-AB; A1B; A2B = 1971/73 429 ~ 1971/78 & some 1979 460 (all internal balance).
D7TZ-7505-A .. 351M/400 Bell Housing / Marked: D7TA-7505-AD
1977/78 F100/350 / 1978 Bronco / 1979 F100/350 & Bronco before serial number DG0,001.
What's the 184T flywheel from? It's not from a 351M/400, as it has a 180T ring gear.
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My 351W HO in the 85 Bronco ate starter drives and busted end frames every month or so for a year. It had a new flex plate with ring gear and starter put in a week before I bought it. It turned out that the indexing plate was worn and was letting the starter ride to far from the ring gear. In a parking lot 3 months ago when I replaced the last starter I put a pry bar on the back of the starter end frame in such a way as to be able to rotate the starter into the ring gear all she would go. Then tightened it on down. When I got in and started it I knew I had it fixed. It sounded like it's supposed to. And even starts the engine while hot now. I hope something in this post may help you.
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Heard that... 1971 lincoln 460..D7TA7505AD Bellhousing..is a truck transmission..what exactally everything is..well Frankenstein may b correct. Its what I was given with the truck so there ya go..sad isnt it?!!
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460 not available with a M/T or 4WD until 1983. All 1968/82 460's came w/a C6 (including all 1968/78 460 passenger cars).
Block casting number: D1VE-6015-AB; A1B; A2B = 1971/73 429 ~ 1971/78 & some 1979 460 (all internal balance).
D7TZ-7505-A .. 351M/400 Bell Housing / Marked: D7TA-7505-AD
1977/78 F100/350 / 1978 Bronco / 1979 F100/350 & Bronco before serial number DG0,001.
What's the 184T flywheel from? It's not from a 351M/400, as it has a 180T ring gear.
Block casting number: D1VE-6015-AB; A1B; A2B = 1971/73 429 ~ 1971/78 & some 1979 460 (all internal balance).
D7TZ-7505-A .. 351M/400 Bell Housing / Marked: D7TA-7505-AD
1977/78 F100/350 / 1978 Bronco / 1979 F100/350 & Bronco before serial number DG0,001.
What's the 184T flywheel from? It's not from a 351M/400, as it has a 180T ring gear.
pedant
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From: EXTREME southwest CT
Just do like Arctic and me said.
Push the starter closer to the crank.
The flywheel must be from a 390
This is how it was done back in the day.
If you want to go the expensive way buy the stupid L&L flywheel.
Push the starter closer to the crank.
The flywheel must be from a 390
This is how it was done back in the day.
If you want to go the expensive way buy the stupid L&L flywheel.
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casting numbers prove more truth then what locals tell you trust me on this. bought my supposed 89 302 from a "local" turns out i got a late model 302 so ya know s**t happens and stuff gets lost in the mixes of buying and selling. All i can suggest from here is write down the casting numbers, part numbers anything you can find relating to number and run em. That will tell you exactly what ya got you know what i mean?
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I wonder do you even have an indexing plate between the bell and block?
As much as things have been changed in and out it is possible it was not
put back in at one time. Do ya know the plate I am talking about?
As much as things have been changed in and out it is possible it was not
put back in at one time. Do ya know the plate I am talking about?
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C5AZ-6375-L .. 390 flywheel-184T Ring Gear-Use with 11 1/2" clutch / (6) 5/16" -18 pressure plate attaching holes on a 12 7/8" bolt circle.
1965/71 FoMoCo Passenger Cars / 1968/76 F100/350.
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C5AZ-6375-K .. 352/360 Flywheel-184T Ring Gear-Use with 11" clutch / (6) 5/16" -18 pressure plate attaching holes on a 12 3/8" bolt circle.
1965/67 Galaxie/LTD 352 / 1965/67 F100/350 352 / 1968/76 F100/350 360.
Post Fiend
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Isn't the Ford starters pretty much all the same Bill? Except between the Auto and manual?
As one has a shorter end frame? So 360, 460, 351 all the same except for that?
I still think Jim and I are onto something with the indexing plate gone missing.
Or like mine and worn from running the starter loose.
As one has a shorter end frame? So 360, 460, 351 all the same except for that?
I still think Jim and I are onto something with the indexing plate gone missing.
Or like mine and worn from running the starter loose.
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Isn't the Ford starters pretty much all the same Bill? Except between the Auto and manual?
As one has a shorter end frame? So 360, 460, 351 all the same except for that?
I still think Jim and I are onto something with the indexing plate gone missing.
Or like mine and worn from running the starter loose.
As one has a shorter end frame? So 360, 460, 351 all the same except for that?
I still think Jim and I are onto something with the indexing plate gone missing.
Or like mine and worn from running the starter loose.
times, I'm not gonna list them.360/390 starter same A/T & M/T, others...maybe yes, maybe no.
pedant
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Here's a link to my thread.
Yes, I know we don't have the same combination of parts, but we do have the same problem.
My truck has been starting fine since I went through all this.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...er-issues.html
Yes, I know we don't have the same combination of parts, but we do have the same problem.
My truck has been starting fine since I went through all this.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...er-issues.html
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He said he got another flywheel since the one he had got tore up. Did he say where he got the flywheel and I missed it? If we positively identify all the parts he has, it would help I believe.
pedant
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Why not just install one that fits?
-OR-
429 Mustangs and Torinos came with a manual transmission.
L&L makes one that works with the 351 bell, and fits a normal clutch.
Could have a late model 460 flywheel zero balanced by a machine shop.
There is more than one way to skin this cat.
I guess it depends on the $-frustration factor.