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Old Dec 14, 2013 | 10:46 AM
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I've been reading where more than one person has suffered from Stuff Homogenizing In Tanks syndrome (I can't post the acronym here). Oil in coolant after seal service, fuel in coolant after cups, heaven forbid coolant goes the other direction.... I've done cups and seals to keep the fluids where they belong, but I didn't button up until I made sure the coolant system would pressurize to 15 PSI and stay there overnight. If the seals can hold 15 PSI of air, chances are good it can hold back higher-pressure fluids. This last test prevented wasted fluids, time, and antacid. I do have a proper radiator pressure test tool from Harbor Freight, but I've also used the redneck method to pressurize the cooling system short-term:

Find a pen with a sealed bottom. A normal Bic won't work, because air can leak through it like a straw. A bolt might work, but I am unsure of the size because I used a pen. Take the small hose of the top of the degas bottle and jam the pen into the hose, then use the clamp to hold it there. Now you have a single opening to puff up the coolant system, and the cap is in place to vent excess air pressure (it squeals loud). I have an air gun with a rubber tip on it to seal against the small tube on the degas bottle. It also works for puffing up a cylinder through the GP hole, just watch out for engine rotation:




Any body else have something to share to check your work before buttoning up... or tricks not in the book for troubleshooting a misbehaving truck?
 
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Just to make sure we are all on the same sheet of music here, I have a couple of questions.

1. Before hooking up your air supply to the coolant system, you have already drained the coolant out of the radiator and engine block as much as you can?

2. The silicone spray you recommend using for spraying into the cups and watching for air/leaks, is it something like this product?
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3. Once you have the pen tube firmly clamped into the degas bottle rubber hose (comes from the driver side into the degas bottle), how do you connect the air supply to the tube?
 
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Just to make sure we are all on the same sheet of music here, I have a couple of questions.

1. Before hooking up your air supply to the coolant system, you have already drained the coolant out of the radiator and engine block as much as you can?
Yes. I remove the block heater after draining the radiator, and that's the bad boy that really drains the coolant. Fluids under low pressure leak very slowly, if at all... because of their density. Air leaks show up with hardly any pressure at all - anybody who made a leak detector for the engine intake can confirm this. Put a little spray on there and voila! Bubbles show leaks.

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2. The silicone spray you recommend using for spraying into the cups and watching for air/leaks, is it something like this product? https://www.amazon.com/Permatex-8007.../dp/B000HBM5S2
That's as good as any. I use silicone spray because it doesn't make a mess, it's light for making bubbles, and it's not soap like we use for intakes... bad juju.


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3. Once you have the pen tube firmly clamped into the degas bottle rubber hose (comes from the driver side into the degas bottle), how do you connect the air supply to the tube?
I puff up the degas bottle with the rubber-tipped air gun, leaving the degas cap on. That hose came off an opening, and that's the opening I use for the air gun. Allowing the degas cap to vent when the pressure limit is reached serves two functions: Test the cap for proper operation, and don't blow up the cooling system. That last one can be a thing if you forget to turn the air compressor regulator down.

One other thing: By performing this test, I now know what the degas cap sounds like when it vents. That way... when I'm towing up a hill on a hot day, I don't freak out when the cap screams - thinking I blew up my turbo. Think slow-mo boot bop... the skivvies get just as soiled.
 
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Originally Posted by Tugly
I puff up the degas bottle with the rubber-tipped air gun, leaving the degas cap on. That hose came off an opening, and that's the opening I use for the air gun. Allowing the degas cap to vent when the pressure limit is reached serves two functions: Test the cap for proper operation, and don't blow up the cooling system. That last one can be a thing if you forget to turn the air compressor regulator down.
I sure am glad I asked, I thought you were pressurizing the system through the hose that goes to the degas bottle, not the degas bottle hole where the hose was just connected.

Now it makes sense as to why you said use a pen with a sealed bottom for the hose. You are simply capping the hose off and leaving the only means for the air to escape back up through the degas bottle cap.

Thanks Rich, we all appreciate the help. I am building my "specialty tools" kit which already consists of the Tugly Coolant system/cup tester and the ExPACamper Cody style tester.
 
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