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Old Dec 11, 2013 | 10:41 AM
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Fuel warming?

So the other day it was -25 degrees. Now that it has warmed up to near 0 I have found my truck gelled. I replaced the fuel filters in the cold and put some 911 in there. She fired right up! So here is my question. Does the 6.4 circulate fuel to warm it while the truck is running?
 
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Old Dec 11, 2013 | 01:18 PM
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So the other day it was -25 degrees. Now that it has warmed up to near 0 I have found my truck gelled. I replaced the fuel filters in the cold and put some 911 in there. She fired right up! So here is my question. Does the 6.4 circulate fuel to warm it while the truck is running?
Yes it does, but you should NEVER use Diesel 911 in your truck! It contains alcohol, which is an emulsifier and can carry water past your filters into your high pressure fuel pump. I've had two common rail diesels in the past, and life or limb would have to be in jeopardy before I used that product. A failed pump because of water will set you back $10,000.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2013 | 01:37 PM
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Yes it does, but you should NEVER use Diesel 911 in your truck! It contains alcohol, which is an emulsifier and can carry water past your filters into your high pressure fuel pump. I've had two common rail diesels in the past, and life or limb would have to be in jeopardy before I used that product. A failed pump because of water will set you back $10,000.
Tom, do you think 911 is OK to use on 7.3 and 6.0 liter trucks?
 
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Old Dec 11, 2013 | 02:32 PM
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Tom, do you think 911 is OK to use on 7.3 and 6.0 liter trucks?
I wouldn't suggest making a habit of it, but from what I understand the catastrophic damage that comes to a 6.4L engine when water goes through the filters doesn't happen on a 6.0 or 7.3L because they use a HEUI injection system without an expen$ive HPFP to grenade.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2013 | 02:53 PM
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I thought there was an aftermarket tank heater, kinda like the block heaters that keeps the fuel tank warm. I have heard of it before but never found it, i feel like that would be useful for diesels in extremely cold climates.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2013 | 03:02 PM
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Well I sure hope it doesn't jack my truck up. Lol. It's been idling for 8 hours now trying to burn some of that fuel so I can go get some number 1 in her. I suppose you could go get a stick on pad like a oil one and out it in the fuel tank but I don't know if it's needed. I think I just got some crumy fuel and the temp changed +/- 50 degrees back an forth over 4 days
 
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Old Dec 11, 2013 | 03:11 PM
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Just did some digging found this. Arctic Fox LLC - Products for cold weather, diesel fuel heating, tube bending and outdoor products
 
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Old Dec 11, 2013 | 03:18 PM
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Drain that fuel water separator often and I would be replacing the lower filter at least with a fresh tank of diesel fuel.
 
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Questions: From everything I've read, if your diesel fuel is unconditioned, it can gel in the really cold weather.

1) At what degrees does this happen and 2) once the fuel gels ... can you warm up the fuel i.e. bring the truck into a heated garage and will it ungel the fuel and be driveable again?
 
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Originally Posted by sunuvabug
Questions: From everything I've read, if your diesel fuel is unconditioned, it can gel in the really cold weather.

1) At what degrees does this happen and 2) once the fuel gels ... can you warm up the fuel i.e. bring the truck into a heated garage and will it ungel the fuel and be driveable again?
Well I'm not sure that there is an exact temperature that fuel gels at but yes if it gels you can bring it in and it will return to liquid. The primary filter on the frame is always the first filter to gel. Because it is the water separator. When I pulled mine this morning it had complete gel through the whole filter along with the filter housing. I put a few drops of 911 in the filter housing and through te new filter in and was good to go.
 
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Originally Posted by Tom
I wouldn't suggest making a habit of it, but from what I understand the catastrophic damage that comes to a 6.4L engine when water goes through the filters doesn't happen on a 6.0 or 7.3L because they use a HEUI injection system without an expen$ive HPFP to grenade.
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I have never had the need but I do have a bottle of 911 in my truck box because sometimes I drive to Flagstaff during the winter and it can get pretty cold up there. Coldest temps here in the valley are 28-29 degrees right before dawn so luckily I've never had to deal with gelled fuel before. (knock on wood...)
 
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