Turbo Problem X2!!!!
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Turbo Problem X2!!!!
What would cause two turbos to fail in one year? Blowing out the oil seals on both. First was a rebuilt turbo. Since it failed after 6 mths. I had a new ford turbo installed, and a week later its leaking. Both turbo failers were blowing white smoke out tailpipe, and the downpipe is soaked with oil. Both cases I heard a weird hiss then pop. Don't remember when the first happened, but the second one was done sitting in the driveway idleing waiting on the truck to warm up. After the $2800 to have the second turbo put on, I cant afford that again. Just trying to get it fixed to sell it. Also, according to service tech, power balance showed all injectors to be good. Any help would be appreciated.
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Both are Garrett turbos. Rebuilt was stock turbo. Second was a new Garret from ford house. I have the solid oil supply line to turbo. I haven't ever noticed an over boost. Haven't checked any VGT values. How would you go about doing that? Have a SG2.
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enter the ford X gauge PIDs
VGT
TXD-07E022096D RXF-046205509066D RXD-3010 MTH-00647FFF0000
Values
koeo-0 low-73 high-43 operating value 0-100
Boost ( BST)
TXD-07E02216AD RXF-0462451606AD RXD-3010 MTH-004827100000
koeo-103( 15) low-110(16) high-110 (16) psi
koeo-3.26 lo-2.43 hi-2.13 psi
VGT
TXD-07E022096D RXF-046205509066D RXD-3010 MTH-00647FFF0000
Values
koeo-0 low-73 high-43 operating value 0-100
Boost ( BST)
TXD-07E02216AD RXF-0462451606AD RXD-3010 MTH-004827100000
koeo-103( 15) low-110(16) high-110 (16) psi
koeo-3.26 lo-2.43 hi-2.13 psi
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What would cause two turbos to fail in one year? Blowing out the oil seals on both. First was a rebuilt turbo. Since it failed after 6 mths. I had a new ford turbo installed, and a week later its leaking. Both turbo failers were blowing white smoke out tailpipe, and the downpipe is soaked with oil. Both cases I heard a weird hiss then pop. Don't remember when the first happened, but the second one was done sitting in the driveway idleing waiting on the truck to warm up. After the $2800 to have the second turbo put on, I cant afford that again. Just trying to get it fixed to sell it. Also, according to service tech, power balance showed all injectors to be good. Any help would be appreciated.
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If the second turbo is only a week old it has a 2 year unlimited mileage warranty from Ford. Chances are it's not a new turbo, it's a reman. Check the paperwork and post the part number. I'll bet the last 2 letters of the part # are RM..... Regardless it's covered.
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Im not really worried about the turbo being under warranty. My main concern is if there is something else that caused two turbo failers that had the same thing happen. Thanks for the warranty info. That does help when I go back to the shop that installed it. I will have to look under the hood and see if I can get the part number. Its not on my invoice from the shop.
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Sorry it took me all week to get these PIDs. Here goes:
KOEO
BARO 13.4
VGT 0
MAP 13.3
EBP 13.3
LI - 692 RPM
BARO 13.4
VGT 65
MAP 13.3
EBP 17.2
HI - 2000 RPM
BARO 13.4
VGT 50
MAP 16
EBP 22.3
In Gear Idleing
Boost 0.5
VGT 67
MAP 13.6
EBP 17
Accelerating
Boost 9.2
VGT 48
MAP 22.3
EBP 29.4
Cruzin @ 60
Boost 4.7
VGT 51
MAP 18.1
EBP 21.8
Cruzin @ 43
Boost 2.7
VGT 52
MAP 15.5
EBP 17.5
WOT
Boost 28.7
VGT 31
MAP 0.8
EBP 58.4
Hopefully this can shed some light on the situation.
KOEO
BARO 13.4
VGT 0
MAP 13.3
EBP 13.3
LI - 692 RPM
BARO 13.4
VGT 65
MAP 13.3
EBP 17.2
HI - 2000 RPM
BARO 13.4
VGT 50
MAP 16
EBP 22.3
In Gear Idleing
Boost 0.5
VGT 67
MAP 13.6
EBP 17
Accelerating
Boost 9.2
VGT 48
MAP 22.3
EBP 29.4
Cruzin @ 60
Boost 4.7
VGT 51
MAP 18.1
EBP 21.8
Cruzin @ 43
Boost 2.7
VGT 52
MAP 15.5
EBP 17.5
WOT
Boost 28.7
VGT 31
MAP 0.8
EBP 58.4
Hopefully this can shed some light on the situation.
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If its a reman that's the problem. If Ford did the work its covered completely. But pay the difference for a new turbo and tell them you want good guy price for it. My son just had an alternator put in at ford and told them he wanted new. Guess what, they put reman in, he had to have it again but it was covered.
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I have more questions than answers for you. To begin with let me state I'm not a Tech but there is something I have been wondering about for quite a while. I have never read this nor have I ever heard of anyone addressing this question. My thoughts have to do with the CCV reroute and whether or not it is beneficial to the engine? I am wondering if the fine oil mist introduced into the air intake by the CCV some how helps to lube the Turbo? I could be way off base here but it's just something I've been thinking about. My CCV is still hooked up and I have 200K miles on my Turbo with no problems. So I would like to ask you " Did you do the CCV reroute before you started having problems with your Turbos? Going thru two turbos in one year seems a little much and there must be a root cause. I can think of nothing else including Over Boost that would cause your misfortune and I do not think it's just a case of Bad Luck.I am looking forward to your answer about your CCV Reroute time frame in relation to you TURBO problems so I cam either give credence to my thoughts or put them to rest. Just thinking out loud-------TIM
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When the stock turbo went out, I had not learned of the CCV reroute yet. And the rebuild stock had already blown the seal when I rerouted, bc I rerouted the CCV to see if maybe my smoke at the tailpipe was coming from the heavy oil from the CCV due to my blow by on the crankcase. Of course it didn't fix it bc it was the turbo once again. Prior to ford turbo I put the CCV back to stock bc I thought I had a buyer for it. Then I took it to the mechanic that has 6.0 experience. Everything I heard was all good on work done and haven't heard any bad. And that's where they put on the ford reman turbo, and I kept the CCV stock. A week later sitting in the drive idling, heard a pop then smoke out the tailpipe.
On another note. When I got the truck back from mech, it still smoked a little and they stated since the tailpipe was so soaked from the turbo oil, that I needed to drive it to burn it off. Never really went away before the turbo popped.
On another note. When I got the truck back from mech, it still smoked a little and they stated since the tailpipe was so soaked from the turbo oil, that I needed to drive it to burn it off. Never really went away before the turbo popped.