December 2013 BS Thread
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It's a 6.0 with extremely low miles. While some are critical of that motor, they can be made to be quite dependable. It takes some money to do that, so you would want to get it at the right price. Let me know what else you find out about the truck when you get a chance.
Phantom of the Phorum
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They're asking $12,500 for it. Paint looks good, tires are probably 25%. Interior looks good. No obvious rust. I haven't heard it run yet. I haven't had a chance to stop in when they're open.
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Edit: Long cab with the short suicide doors, not a true four door.
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I know there some things you can do to them to make them very durable. But if finances are an issue, or you just don't want to spend any extra money on it, I know a guy that can re-flash the PCM and have it shut off the EGR system. Head studs/gaskets are the big issue with those motors. What causes the problem is that the EGR system is located in the engine valley along with the High Presser Oil Cooler. Combined, they create a lot of heat in there causing the head gaskets to blow. Replacing the head studs requires removing the cab. Shutting off the EGR system helps cut down that heat, as well as keeps the soot out of the turbo and motor.
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I forgot to mention this is a Super Duty. Or maybe all the F250s are?
Is there any consequence to shutting down the EGR, other than emissions?
I've been reading up on them a little. Evidently, you absolutely have to keep the oil and the oil/air filters changed or it will grenade.
I was wrong about the mileage, it actually has 52,000. If it's driven more like a big car, and not used to do a lot of towing (once or twice a year, less than 10,000#) what kind life expectancy are we talking?
From what I'm hearing and reading, a gasser might be more what I need. It's just getting hard to find an F250 that's not diesel.
I would just hate to be somewhere like Northern MN, a thousand miles away, and have a breakdown. It sounds like these things have more computer controls than NASA.
Is there any consequence to shutting down the EGR, other than emissions?
I've been reading up on them a little. Evidently, you absolutely have to keep the oil and the oil/air filters changed or it will grenade.
I was wrong about the mileage, it actually has 52,000. If it's driven more like a big car, and not used to do a lot of towing (once or twice a year, less than 10,000#) what kind life expectancy are we talking?
From what I'm hearing and reading, a gasser might be more what I need. It's just getting hard to find an F250 that's not diesel.
I would just hate to be somewhere like Northern MN, a thousand miles away, and have a breakdown. It sounds like these things have more computer controls than NASA.
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I forgot to mention this is a Super Duty. Or maybe all the F250s are?
Is there any consequence to shutting down the EGR, other than emissions?
I've been reading up on them a little. Evidently, you absolutely have to keep the oil and the oil/air filters changed or it will grenade.
I was wrong about the mileage, it actually has 52,000. If it's driven more like a big car, and not used to do a lot of towing (once or twice a year, less than 10,000#) what kind life expectancy are we talking?
From what I'm hearing and reading, a gasser might be more what I need. It's just getting hard to find an F250 that's not diesel.
I would just hate to be somewhere like Northern MN, a thousand miles away, and have a breakdown. It sounds like these things have more computer controls than NASA.
Is there any consequence to shutting down the EGR, other than emissions?
I've been reading up on them a little. Evidently, you absolutely have to keep the oil and the oil/air filters changed or it will grenade.
I was wrong about the mileage, it actually has 52,000. If it's driven more like a big car, and not used to do a lot of towing (once or twice a year, less than 10,000#) what kind life expectancy are we talking?
From what I'm hearing and reading, a gasser might be more what I need. It's just getting hard to find an F250 that's not diesel.
I would just hate to be somewhere like Northern MN, a thousand miles away, and have a breakdown. It sounds like these things have more computer controls than NASA.
get a OBS truck like mine. Durable, cheap initial buy, and can be repaired easily.
Hotshot
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All 99 and up F250's are Super Dutys.
Shutting the EGR system off only affects the emissions and reduces the heat like I mentioned earlier.
Oil and filters are a must in keeping these engines at their best.
I personally wouldn't shy away from it. But, I have a friend that's 15 miles from me that knows these trucks, and works for me at a very reasonable rate. And he has tow trucks if that is necessary. Perhaps a gas motor truck would be better for you.
Shutting the EGR system off only affects the emissions and reduces the heat like I mentioned earlier.
Oil and filters are a must in keeping these engines at their best.
I personally wouldn't shy away from it. But, I have a friend that's 15 miles from me that knows these trucks, and works for me at a very reasonable rate. And he has tow trucks if that is necessary. Perhaps a gas motor truck would be better for you.
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I'm looking at trading off my '04 Liberty. Not only do I want to get back to the Ford family (didn't need a bail out) but the Jeep has over 140,000 miles on it, and the 3.7 is notorious for sludging up. It also has a little rust starting to show and Jeeps usually go fast once it starts.
KBB Retail on the F250 is $26,000 (dealer)
KBB Trade in on the Liberty is $4,000
The fact they're asking half the KBB Retail on the F250 concerns me. It also has me convinced they would probably trade me like I didn't have the Liberty.
KBB Retail on the F250 is $26,000 (dealer)
KBB Trade in on the Liberty is $4,000
The fact they're asking half the KBB Retail on the F250 concerns me. It also has me convinced they would probably trade me like I didn't have the Liberty.
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Hotshot
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I wonder what the insurance companies would say it would be worth if it were totaled? I assume it's a 4X4 with automatic transmission. I will send a text to my buddy and see what he thinks the value is.
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My buddy got back with me and said that the truck you're looking at is a heck of a deal unless there's something wrong that is not noticeable.
As you and Wes know, I bought a truck for work for a great price knowing I was going to have to spend money getting it to where I want it. I paid 12,500 for it, but put another 6,000 or so in it. I knew going in that having 20,000 or a little more was going to be a real possibility. And I got real close to that mark, and I'm not done with that truck yet. I still haven't fixed the bent axle. That will be mostly labor, and not too much money.
A couple other things to look at on that truck, are the front hubs manual hubs or are they automatic? What about the 4x4 on it? Is it manual or do you just flip a switch?
As you and Wes know, I bought a truck for work for a great price knowing I was going to have to spend money getting it to where I want it. I paid 12,500 for it, but put another 6,000 or so in it. I knew going in that having 20,000 or a little more was going to be a real possibility. And I got real close to that mark, and I'm not done with that truck yet. I still haven't fixed the bent axle. That will be mostly labor, and not too much money.
A couple other things to look at on that truck, are the front hubs manual hubs or are they automatic? What about the 4x4 on it? Is it manual or do you just flip a switch?
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Just tossing this out...
For that same $12,500 you can buy an IMMACULATE OBS or Bricknose, 7.3l or 7.5l engine, 4x4....And have it working perfectly.
And then have $2,000-3,000 to save.
Simple, reliable and a ton of crossover parts.
For that same $12,500 you can buy an IMMACULATE OBS or Bricknose, 7.3l or 7.5l engine, 4x4....And have it working perfectly.
And then have $2,000-3,000 to save.
Simple, reliable and a ton of crossover parts.
Hotshot
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Wes, a lot of truth to what you said. In my opinion, the OBS was the last years for real good looking Ford trucks. They have been going down hill with regards to looks ever since in my opinion. Having said that, there is something to be said about the newer trucks. They are a lot quieter, nicer creature comforts, (yesterday I really wish my 02 had heated mirrors) better ride, etc. A lot of stuff I would not have considered in a truck. But the older I get, the more I like those options. I'm amazed at how quiet my 08 is!
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Actually, I've been there done that, and I agree. I had a 1994 Bronco and a 1995 F150. I liked both of them. I really liked the body style.
I should have kept the Bronco. It had everything but a butt scratchier.
It's problem was it got 12.5MPG all the time. It didn't matter where you were driving, or what kind of load it was pulling, it always got the same.
I should have kept the Bronco. It had everything but a butt scratchier.
It's problem was it got 12.5MPG all the time. It didn't matter where you were driving, or what kind of load it was pulling, it always got the same.
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I'm reminded of a post made some time ago in a car thread buy a guy that has a 63 Vette. He said it is the most fun ride you can have for 20 minutes. But it is the worst ride you could have for an hour. The older we get, the more some things matter, and the less other things matter.