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Old Nov 30, 2013 | 01:30 PM
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cold 6.0L won't shift

Our 2005 F250 6.0L has begun not shifting properly on the first start of the day, when the outside temperature is less than 60 degrees. Idling around the neighborhood - no issues, but when hitting the on ramp I have to coax it up to speed or it flat refuses to shift. If I let off the fuel just a tad, it shifts, but hard. Once warmed - it is flawless, except on some grades it will stutter on occasion - but I suspect it might be another issue.

With either issue, no codes, no smoke. We've recently replaced the fuel control module, and fuel pump along with injector harness.

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Robert
 
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Old Nov 30, 2013 | 01:34 PM
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I wouldn't think it would be a transmission issue but do you have fresh ATF?

Next I would consider FICM voltage to be low. Do you have a Scangauge2 or app to read live data?
 
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Old Nov 30, 2013 | 01:35 PM
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Old Nov 30, 2013 | 01:43 PM
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No, I really don't think it is the tranny either - I am more suspect of a line or sensor - but have no idea as to where to start. Don't have a Scangauge2.

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I wouldn't think it would be a transmission issue but do you have fresh ATF?

Next I would consider FICM voltage to be low. Do you have a Scangauge2 or app to read live data?
 
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Old Nov 30, 2013 | 04:04 PM
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I've seen several 6.0L trucks with this problem. The issue is that the engine isn't making the power it should be when cold. You have the pedal pushed down further than you think to get the performance, so the trans thinks you are near WOT, which you really are. That makes the shifts late. Find out why the engine isn't making power cold and then the trans will shift right.
 
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Old Nov 30, 2013 | 07:52 PM
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I've seen a lot of threads like this, most seem to point to sticking injectors. Kind of like the post above, the transmission only does what the engine tells it to do.
 
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Old Nov 30, 2013 | 07:57 PM
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I agree FICM or Injectors

Get you a Gauge that plugs into the OBDII Port to take some readings


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Old Nov 30, 2013 | 08:53 PM
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I uselly wait until eot is 90s and ects are around 100s before I drive the truck this also helps heat the trans fluid , watch your gauge , and not the ones on the dash cluster.
 
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Originally Posted by BLADE35
I agree FICM or Injectors

Get you a Gauge that plugs into the OBDII Port to take some readings


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Yup FICM or Injectors is my diagnosis too. Seen it toooo many times.
 
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Old Dec 1, 2013 | 09:14 PM
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Do you let the truck warm up at all or just take right off?? If I start mine up and take off with a minute or two, but truck doesn't like to shift either. My tranny temp though is ice cold at the time, which makes me think it is designed that way. Now if I let my truck warm up for a bit it is just fine.
 
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Old Dec 1, 2013 | 09:21 PM
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No, it's not designed that way. My development vehicles didn't do this.
 
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Old Dec 1, 2013 | 10:28 PM
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I uselly wait until eot is 90s and ects are around 100s before I drive the truck this also helps heat the trans fluid , watch your gauge , and not the ones on the dash cluster.
Try heating the truck up in the cold morning this will help in the fluid departmentX2 on the Injects
 
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Old Dec 1, 2013 | 11:42 PM
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I agree that is a lack of adequate power issue caused either by sticking injectors or a bad FICM. Check out the FAQ page on FICMrepair.com for a how to on checking the output voltage of the module - spec is between 45 and 50 volts. We'd be happy to take care of you if that is the issue.
 
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Old Dec 14, 2013 | 02:55 PM
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Well shucks - after much effort everything (voltages, etc.) checked fine, I took it to the dealer for a cold morning start - no codes but they reported that injectors 2,4, and 8 were failing. Still, after an expensive bill, this mornings start was less than spectacular. Since I had to pull a 8000 trailer this morning I was watching everything very closely, and I could be wrong, but it seems like I've lost some umph.
 
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I must have missed in first post But you Already changed the FICM???


You need aGauge Theres just not any way around it

I suppose you could use a DVM for some of it But
 
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