2014 backup camera
Thread Starter
|
Cargo Master
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 2,470
Likes: 535
From: Chandler, AZ
2014 backup camera
I have been trying to add a 2nd backup camera that isn't in the tailgate. I have to remove the tailgate when I haul my cab-over camper, and that's when the camera would be most useful.
So, I bought a ford tailgate wire harness ($12) and a cheap backup camera that mounts to the license plate. Not surprisingly, it doesn't work. To further understand, I probed the wires with an oscilloscope and it appears that the Grey/purple wire has LIN traffic on it when the truck is running. I assume the controller is querying the camera, and the lack of response results in the message displayed "Camera not found, contact dealer...".
So there are a few options:
1) Spend $275 on a ford camera and fabricate a mount (grid will likely be off when mounted in a different location)
2) Decode LIN response from camera and emulate with $2.75 micro controller. Cheap but would take some time.
3) Buy a $30 stand alone monitor for additional camera(s) and figure out where/how to mount
Taking the camera in and out of the tailgate every time is not an option for me. I think I'm going with #3 at this point.
So, I bought a ford tailgate wire harness ($12) and a cheap backup camera that mounts to the license plate. Not surprisingly, it doesn't work. To further understand, I probed the wires with an oscilloscope and it appears that the Grey/purple wire has LIN traffic on it when the truck is running. I assume the controller is querying the camera, and the lack of response results in the message displayed "Camera not found, contact dealer...".
So there are a few options:
1) Spend $275 on a ford camera and fabricate a mount (grid will likely be off when mounted in a different location)
2) Decode LIN response from camera and emulate with $2.75 micro controller. Cheap but would take some time.
3) Buy a $30 stand alone monitor for additional camera(s) and figure out where/how to mount
Taking the camera in and out of the tailgate every time is not an option for me. I think I'm going with #3 at this point.
Elder User
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 848
Likes: 0
From: On a Lake in Idaho
Hey Justin, have you looked into the Lock Pick?
I know there are some previous threads around.
Lock Pick Backup Cameras, Override Kits & Harnesses
I know there are some previous threads around.
Lock Pick Backup Cameras, Override Kits & Harnesses
Tuned
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 374
Likes: 1
From: Las Vegas
Here is another thought, if you like to monitor everything on your truck, you can get an Edge CTS monitor and hook a camera to that. I have my Edge CTS hooked up to the camera on the back of my trailer to help me navigate when backing.
Obviously more expensive, but you can get a monitoring system and camera set up at the same time.
Leon
Obviously more expensive, but you can get a monitoring system and camera set up at the same time.
Leon
Tuned
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 460
Likes: 50
From: Washington state
I have been trying to add a 2nd backup camera that isn't in the tailgate. I have to remove the tailgate when I haul my cab-over camper, and that's when the camera would be most useful.
So, I bought a ford tailgate wire harness ($12) and a cheap backup camera that mounts to the license plate. Not surprisingly, it doesn't work. To further understand, I probed the wires with an oscilloscope and it appears that the Grey/purple wire has LIN traffic on it when the truck is running. I assume the controller is querying the camera, and the lack of response results in the message displayed "Camera not found, contact dealer...".
So there are a few options:
1) Spend $275 on a ford camera and fabricate a mount (grid will likely be off when mounted in a different location)
2) Decode LIN response from camera and emulate with $2.75 micro controller. Cheap but would take some time.
3) Buy a $30 stand alone monitor for additional camera(s) and figure out where/how to mount
Taking the camera in and out of the tailgate every time is not an option for me. I think I'm going with #3 at this point.
So, I bought a ford tailgate wire harness ($12) and a cheap backup camera that mounts to the license plate. Not surprisingly, it doesn't work. To further understand, I probed the wires with an oscilloscope and it appears that the Grey/purple wire has LIN traffic on it when the truck is running. I assume the controller is querying the camera, and the lack of response results in the message displayed "Camera not found, contact dealer...".
So there are a few options:
1) Spend $275 on a ford camera and fabricate a mount (grid will likely be off when mounted in a different location)
2) Decode LIN response from camera and emulate with $2.75 micro controller. Cheap but would take some time.
3) Buy a $30 stand alone monitor for additional camera(s) and figure out where/how to mount
Taking the camera in and out of the tailgate every time is not an option for me. I think I'm going with #3 at this point.
Good luck
New User
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 12
Likes: 0
From: Hudson, WI
I'd vote for #3 and then #2. #1 is just too much $$$
Of if you do some junk yard diving and find a tailgate you can pull the camera from it as that should plug and play. You'd just need to make some sort of mount.
Of if you do some junk yard diving and find a tailgate you can pull the camera from it as that should plug and play. You'd just need to make some sort of mount.
Last edited by Kiss4aFrog; Nov 26, 2013 at 09:43 PM. Reason: missing word
Postmaster
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 4,094
Likes: 5
From: Central Illinois
I mounted mine between the tailgate and bumper.
Pointed down....
..it looks like this. Sorry for the crappy photo.
Pointed down....
..it looks like this. Sorry for the crappy photo.
Trending Topics
Thread Starter
|
Cargo Master
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 2,470
Likes: 535
From: Chandler, AZ
Are you sure you didn't get a defective aftermarket camera? Three years ago I bought a factory tailgate wiring harness and did to my 2011 what you are trying to do to your 14. I can't remember where I got my cameras but I think it was from amazon.My first camera was faulty. I mounted the the second camera above my license plate and it still works great. I looked at the ford tailgate camera and it was not practical to move it.
Good luck
Good luck
I think there have been changes made from the 2011/12 system. The '14 lariat system is the '13 nav system w/o the nav feature.
The lockpick is interesting, but not sure if compatible with a '14 and it won't solve the communication issue. It could be used to use the A/V input, but one of the goals is to use the existing factory video wiring and automatic operation of the reverse camera.
Most cheap monitors have dual video inputs, that would be nice for a 2nd camera mounted in another location for viewing while driving (horses, boat trailer, ect)
FTE Stories
Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make
Brett Foote
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!
Michael S. Palmer
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home
Verdad Gallardo
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!
Joe Kucinski
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?
Brett Foote
2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!
Michael S. Palmer
10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!
Joe Kucinski
Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026
Brett Foote
5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time
Joe Kucinski
Thread Starter
|
Cargo Master
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 2,470
Likes: 535
From: Chandler, AZ
I went ahead and installed a cheap monitor to the coin holder/filler piece. The monitor is OK but the Kooltron camera doen't have a wide enough VERTICAL viewing angle to be useful for hitching up a trailer. You can adjust the camera to see either the trailer, or the ball but not both. The camera mount covers the top 1" of the license plate, which is illegal in AZ, so I had to fab some spacers and move it up above the top of the plate.
So I don't reccomend this camera if you have a trailer..
So I don't reccomend this camera if you have a trailer..
Elder User
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 848
Likes: 0
From: On a Lake in Idaho
Nice install on the Monitor Justin! I like the idea/concept
So what is plan "B" (different camera?), or are you just going to run with it...
Post a pic of the screenshot when you get a chance.
Thx
So what is plan "B" (different camera?), or are you just going to run with it...
Post a pic of the screenshot when you get a chance.
Thx
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
78_f800crewcab4x4
1978 - 1996 Big Bronco
4
May 8, 2018 09:45 PM
Frenchy
1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks
2
Apr 12, 2008 02:30 PM