Notices
1994.5 - 1997 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel  

E4OD Pump?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Nov 19, 2013 | 05:47 PM
  #1  
osu711's Avatar
osu711
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 247
Likes: 0
From: NJ
E4OD Pump?

I have a 1996 f350 PSD CC LB

Im going to start this story off by rewinding to about August.

The truck would drive fine except going from first to second, it would delay but would go (sometimes I would have to let off the gas then press back down on the pedal for it to shift) Replaced the VSS and seemed to be better

About two-three weeks ago as the truck would warm up (after driving it for a while) when I would come to a stop, it would roll freely as if in neutral (but it would be in drive) and when I gave it some gas it would catch (sometimes hard) and go fine (in foward and reverse)

Fast foward to today

Driving home and it starts doing the slow to shift along with the acting as if neutral when warm, and then I notice the OD 'OFF' Light is flashing.

I got this truck from my neighbor knowing the transmission was re-done about threee years ago.

Plenty of fluid, new filter as of last week.

Now Heres what I want to know, can having a bad pump cause the light to flash?I seem to think it does not have enough pressure. Not having a code reader doesnt help much right now so I cant give you guys a code to go by. It seems as if it does not have enough pressure once its warm. Any ideas?
 
Reply
Old Nov 19, 2013 | 09:55 PM
  #2  
fordpride's Avatar
fordpride
Post Fiend
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 15,505
Likes: 18
From: Livoina,La
Mark answered your concern in the other thread



Originally Posted by Mark Kovalsky

What CAN make it go to neutral is low fluid, missing/damaged internal filter, leaky seals in the forward clutch, worn pump, or loose feed bolts.
 
Reply
Old Nov 19, 2013 | 10:03 PM
  #3  
Mark Kovalsky's Avatar
Mark Kovalsky
Frmr Ford Trans Engr
25 Year Member
Liked
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 3
Joined: Aug 1999
Posts: 24,730
Likes: 2,658
From: SE Florida
Without the codes you're going to spend a lot of money changing parts until you get lucky. If you spend some money to get the codes you usually spend less money fixing it.
 
Reply
Old Nov 20, 2013 | 04:49 AM
  #4  
osu711's Avatar
osu711
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 247
Likes: 0
From: NJ
Originally Posted by Mark Kovalsky
Without the codes you're going to spend a lot of money changing parts until you get lucky. If you spend some money to get the codes you usually spend less money fixing it.
I spoke to a buddy of mine. He's got a pretty decent code reader and he is going to stop by today an hopefully I can get a code for you guys.

Would it throw a code for low pressure?

And is the pump normally changed when a trans is rebuilt?
 
Reply
Old Nov 20, 2013 | 07:51 AM
  #5  
Mark Kovalsky's Avatar
Mark Kovalsky
Frmr Ford Trans Engr
25 Year Member
Liked
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 3
Joined: Aug 1999
Posts: 24,730
Likes: 2,658
From: SE Florida
There is no code for low pressure. There are codes for long shifts that MIGHT be caused by low pressure. A bad pump is also not the only way that you will end up with low pressure. Internal leaks are usually the cause of low pressure.

The pump should be inspected and measured at a rebuild. If it is worn then it should be replaced. If it shows minimal wear (there are specs) then it can safely be reused.
 
Reply
Old Nov 20, 2013 | 08:11 AM
  #6  
osu711's Avatar
osu711
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 247
Likes: 0
From: NJ
Originally Posted by Mark Kovalsky
There is no code for low pressure. There are codes for long shifts that MIGHT be caused by low pressure. A bad pump is also not the only way that you will end up with low pressure. Internal leaks are usually the cause of low pressure.

The pump should be inspected and measured at a rebuild. If it is worn then it should be replaced. If it shows minimal wear (there are specs) then it can safely be reused.
Ok because this trans was rebuilt about three years ago and it hasnt seen that many more miles since, so its got me a little baffled as to what is going wrong. I will let you guys know what the code it is throwing is later today, regarding my buddy's code reader can pull it.



Also the only long shift is from 1st to second, the rest works fine
 
Reply
Old Nov 20, 2013 | 09:04 AM
  #7  
osu711's Avatar
osu711
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 247
Likes: 0
From: NJ
I know this is kind of a shot in the dark but should I try unhooking the batteries for a half hour and then see what it feels like? Ive heard that sometimes the computer just needs to be reset. Whadya think Mark, try it?
 
Reply
Old Nov 20, 2013 | 04:10 PM
  #8  
trackspeeder's Avatar
trackspeeder
More Turbo
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 643
Likes: 3
From: North Branford
I would pull the code(s) first.
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

Top 10 Fords at 2026 Carlisle Ford Nationals

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

3 Best / 3 Worst Parts of Modern Ford Ownership

 Brett Foote
story-2

10 Amazing Upgrades That Solve Common Ford Truck Owner Headaches

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-3

Every 2026 Ford Engine Explained

 Brett Foote
story-4

10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-6

Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

 Brett Foote
story-9

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
Old Nov 20, 2013 | 04:51 PM
  #9  
Mark Kovalsky's Avatar
Mark Kovalsky
Frmr Ford Trans Engr
25 Year Member
Liked
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 3
Joined: Aug 1999
Posts: 24,730
Likes: 2,658
From: SE Florida
Originally Posted by osu711
I know this is kind of a shot in the dark but should I try unhooking the batteries for a half hour and then see what it feels like? Ive heard that sometimes the computer just needs to be reset. Whadya think Mark, try it?
You'd do as much good by changing the summer air in the tires for winter air. There is NOTHING that resets on these computers.
 
Reply
Old Nov 20, 2013 | 06:41 PM
  #10  
osu711's Avatar
osu711
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 247
Likes: 0
From: NJ
Originally Posted by Mark Kovalsky
You'd do as much good by changing the summer air in the tires for winter air. There is NOTHING that resets on these computers.
Haha thats pretty funny. Well like a dummy I did try disconnecting the batteries let it sit for an hour, and I went and drove the truck again, Still did the same thing. my buddy stoppd by went and drove the truck around for about 15-20 mins and it shifted through all the gears fine all of a sudden! What the heck?!?! however it showed no codes but it still goes into like a neutral and rolls freely at idle when stopping sometimes (sometimes it doesnt) I think the code was thrown from long shifts yesterday becasue I was kind of womping on it to see when it would and wouldnt shift from first to second and today i spent about 45 mins in all driving the truck and no codes came back.

Also I noticed

1.the speedo starts bouncing at about 45-50 MPH (VSS WAS CHANGED)
2. when the trans goes into "neutral" it catches at 1200 rpm in fowards before it will move again, 1500-1600 reverse
3. It shifts fine between 1-2 AFTER you let off the gas
4.Also I went and payed more attention when it was delay shifting between 1-2 gear, it would go up to 2700-3000rpm before it would shift. If you let off the gas then went back on it, it would shift fine.


Now what?
 
Reply
Old Nov 20, 2013 | 08:32 PM
  #11  
Mark Kovalsky's Avatar
Mark Kovalsky
Frmr Ford Trans Engr
25 Year Member
Liked
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 3
Joined: Aug 1999
Posts: 24,730
Likes: 2,658
From: SE Florida
If you had read the codes before disconnecting the batteries you'd have some information that could help diagnose what's wrong.
 
Reply
Old Nov 20, 2013 | 09:54 PM
  #12  
fordpride's Avatar
fordpride
Post Fiend
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 15,505
Likes: 18
From: Livoina,La
Anytime you set a light never dissconect the batteries. All that does is clear the codes. Now you have two choices. 1. Drive till the code comes back to read it. 2. Start throwing parts at it. Then there's the chance that if you keep driving it like that you are just going to destroy the trans.
 
Reply
Old Nov 21, 2013 | 08:32 AM
  #13  
osu711's Avatar
osu711
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 247
Likes: 0
From: NJ
Originally Posted by Mark Kovalsky
If you had read the codes before disconnecting the batteries you'd have some information that could help diagnose what's wrong.
Originally Posted by fordpride
Anytime you set a light never dissconect the batteries. All that does is clear the codes. Now you have two choices. 1. Drive till the code comes back to read it. 2. Start throwing parts at it. Then there's the chance that if you keep driving it like that you are just going to destroy the trans.
You are both 100% right. Sadly I had to bury a beloved family pet yesterday and I needed to do something to take my mind off things and unfortunately screw around with the truck was the activity of choice, and now because of my stupidity and need to do something I'm gonna (hopefully not) pay for it. I'm going to drive it today close to home in case something goes wrong. I also do remember messing with the cruise control just before I noticed the OD light. Maybe that is what set it off? The cruise control did not want to work at first and I was messing with it (it did eventually) maybe that's what set it off?
 
Reply
Old Nov 21, 2013 | 03:55 PM
  #14  
osu711's Avatar
osu711
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 247
Likes: 0
From: NJ
Well I just got back from driving the truck around (drove 39 miles). No blinking OD light but it was still doing the neutral free rolling thing but i did notice that when shifting from first to second, it did take a while but it would shift (seemed to shift faster than the last couple days). I only had to let off the pedal once for it to shift otherwise if I stayed on the gas it would shift, however it was not right away.

I also did notice that when going to shift from 1st to 2ndthe tach would go up to 2500-2600, slowly go down to 2000-2100, then back up to about 2300-2400 and then all shifting while moving was normal from there. Why is it doing this?

Is it possible that my TC is starting to take a dump on me?
 
Reply
Old Nov 22, 2013 | 04:41 PM
  #15  
osu711's Avatar
osu711
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 247
Likes: 0
From: NJ
drove the truck for a while again today. Going out the driveway, had one long shift but i did not let off the gas until it shifted this time unlike I usually do. Didnt have a late shift since and I rode around in it for a while. It only did the neutral roll two times that I remember as well. This things got me so confused
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:03 AM.

story-0
Top 10 Fords at 2026 Carlisle Ford Nationals

Slideshow: Top 10 Fords at 2026 Ford Nationals

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-09 11:10:08


VIEW MORE
story-1
3 Best / 3 Worst Parts of Modern Ford Ownership

Based on years of owning multiple modern Ford products.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-09 10:53:36


VIEW MORE
story-2
10 Amazing Upgrades That Solve Common Ford Truck Owner Headaches

SPONSORED: From muddy boots to rain-soaked cargo, these upgrades address some of the most common frustrations Ford truck owners face every day.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-06-08 18:50:34


VIEW MORE
story-3
Every 2026 Ford Engine Explained

Here's everything you need to know about every Ford engine available for the 2026 model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-05 12:58:01


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Ford trucks that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 09:51:16


VIEW MORE
story-5
10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: the best gifts for dads & grads

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:58


VIEW MORE
story-6
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-03 11:38:36


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-8
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE
story-9
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE