Today is not my day, please help
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Today is not my day, please help
Well I started the day off by thinking i was going to replace the Nuetral saftey switch on my 1996 f350 PSD becasue once it warms up the trans seems to go into neutal when i go to stop. Well I climbed under the truck to take a look at it before i ran out to the parts store to get another one and i noticed 2 bolts were a tad loose. I wend to tighten the one that holds the linkage from the shift lever (no i didnt disconnect it like a dummy) and I heard a pop and it moved. Iwent into the cab and moved the shift lever down and then tried to move it back up and snapped the aluminum shift tube
. Anyone got any ideas why my shift lever didnt want to go back up? and anyone ever change a shift tube before?
. Anyone got any ideas why my shift lever didnt want to go back up? and anyone ever change a shift tube before?
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I would take off the cowling around the wheel (3-4 secrews) and see what is going on.
I seem to recall that dorman makes a repair kit for the shift tube but I may be wrong.
you can look under the dash and dis-connect the cable from the shifter and see if it moves well then.
I would also dis-connect the shift cable at the tranny side and see if the lever moves freely.
Richard
I seem to recall that dorman makes a repair kit for the shift tube but I may be wrong.
you can look under the dash and dis-connect the cable from the shifter and see if it moves well then.
I would also dis-connect the shift cable at the tranny side and see if the lever moves freely.
Richard
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I would take off the cowling around the wheel (3-4 secrews) and see what is going on.
I seem to recall that dorman makes a repair kit for the shift tube but I may be wrong.
you can look under the dash and dis-connect the cable from the shifter and see if it moves well then.
I would also dis-connect the shift cable at the tranny side and see if the lever moves freely.
Richard
I seem to recall that dorman makes a repair kit for the shift tube but I may be wrong.
you can look under the dash and dis-connect the cable from the shifter and see if it moves well then.
I would also dis-connect the shift cable at the tranny side and see if the lever moves freely.
Richard
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What CAN make it go to neutral is low fluid, missing/damaged internal filter, leaky seals in the forward clutch, worn pump, or loose feed bolts.
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Has anyone changed the shifter tube? Im trying to take the broken one out now, but im having a hard time getting the inner clamp off and I dont want to take the whole dash apart
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Dash? Everything's in the column, except for the little cable that moves the red pointer on the PRND21 display. I've never messed with one on an automatic, but it seems to me you could just disconnect that cable, then drop the whole column and have all the room to work that you need.
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thats what i ended up doing, I thought mabe I could work from the top down but I guess not. Anyways its out, now Im wating on a ride to the auto parts store, and that little cable broke in the process so Ive gotta order another one now anyways, and my perfect day rolls on....
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well good news, I tapped the lever on the trans fowards, and i got it moving again, I think when it was "stuck" i had moved it past its normal range and had it stuck. Also, its not that the truck is in neutral, but it acts like neutral and only when i go to stop, for example, when i stop the truck will roll back or foward depending on the incline of the road and only when the truck has been running and moving around for a while. I read in a different thread that it could be the NSS (MLPS). The trans was just done before i got the truck and it shifts fine otherwise, has plenty of fluid, doesnt leak etc. However the sensors were not changed when the trans was done, so I figured id replace it and see if that is my problem becasue other wise the truck drives fine
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update: Got the new tube in but there is still a spot where it sticks when you move the gear selector and need to tab it from under the truck. Also the truck will not turn over now. Considering having a shop work on it becasue Im starting to get very annoyed with working on this thing and I really dont have the proper place do be doing it, crawling around in the gravel driveway
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The not turning over is because your switch/sensor is still not right. That switch also contains the starter lockout, that energizes the starter relay from the key only when it's set to Park or Neutral. If the shifter isn't in sync with the switch, it won't crank. You might try, as an interim, try starting it in Neutral, and then also move the shifter around as you hold the key and see if it hits a spot where it cranks.
I have a spare cluster in the basement, from an automatic truck, with the PRND21 needle and cable. PM me if you want, and I'll see if I can extricate it from the cluster without effing it up, and I'll throw it in an envelope to you. I'll never have a use for it; nothing short of losing my right arm in a chainsaw fencing fight with a zombie will ever get me to own an automatic truck.
I have a spare cluster in the basement, from an automatic truck, with the PRND21 needle and cable. PM me if you want, and I'll see if I can extricate it from the cluster without effing it up, and I'll throw it in an envelope to you. I'll never have a use for it; nothing short of losing my right arm in a chainsaw fencing fight with a zombie will ever get me to own an automatic truck.
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The not turning over is because your switch/sensor is still not right. That switch also contains the starter lockout, that energizes the starter relay from the key only when it's set to Park or Neutral. If the shifter isn't in sync with the switch, it won't crank. You might try, as an interim, try starting it in Neutral, and then also move the shifter around as you hold the key and see if it hits a spot where it cranks.
I have a spare cluster in the basement, from an automatic truck, with the PRND21 needle and cable. PM me if you want, and I'll see if I can extricate it from the cluster without effing it up, and I'll throw it in an envelope to you. I'll never have a use for it; nothing short of losing my right arm in a chainsaw fencing fight with a zombie will ever get me to own an automatic truck.
I have a spare cluster in the basement, from an automatic truck, with the PRND21 needle and cable. PM me if you want, and I'll see if I can extricate it from the cluster without effing it up, and I'll throw it in an envelope to you. I'll never have a use for it; nothing short of losing my right arm in a chainsaw fencing fight with a zombie will ever get me to own an automatic truck.
