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Old Nov 26, 2013 | 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by c2z4s9
Na if I understand it correctly it's a rough country 3" lift (I guess they don't make it anymore). It was actually installed on a 95 F150 and my friend upgraded and gave it to me. Truly though the distance between the bolts in the drop brackets are 2.5", so I'm not quite sure why it was labeled as 3". Anyway, after all was installed the wheels are +5 degrees camber on both sides. way, way out. I don't quite get it. Mysterious eh?

Hmmm... so the springs settle? I thought that took years and years?
Ok. You do not have new springs, so they won't settle much. And you do not know the history of this setup since it came off another truck. I thought it may have been bought new.

If you are ok with letting it down a little bit, and do not have another set of holes in the drop brackets, why not just trim the springs a little bit at a time till it sits down where you want it.
 
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Old Nov 27, 2013 | 06:43 AM
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hmmm... I've never cut springs before. What do you do about the pigtails at the ends?
 
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Old Nov 27, 2013 | 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by c2z4s9
hmmm... I've never cut springs before. What do you do about the pigtails at the ends?
Do they look like this(been awhile since I have had a f150).



If so, you should be able to trim the top and leave the bottom alone. I believe they have a clamp and a bolt on the bottom don't they?
 
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Old Nov 27, 2013 | 07:41 AM
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These are not them, but they look like this: MOOG-CC822 Front Variable Rate Coil Springs - Pair Made By MOOG

There's a pigtail on each end and the "squared off" part at the top is held in by a small bracket, if it wasn't there I'm not quite sure it would work right. Maybe it isn't needed? On the bottom you are right there's a large washer and bolt that secures the spring by clamping the pigtail.
 
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Old Nov 27, 2013 | 08:01 AM
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This is for additional information... I did contact rough country and they said simply "get it aligned, it's a known problem with I-Beam suspension trucks". I explained that I realized this, but I didn't know of any way to correct for such a large camber. I've seen camber bushings that go as far as +-2.75 degrees, but nothing really above that. When I said that the rep didn't really have anything further to say. If very large camber offset bushings exist I'm willing to go that route, but I haven't seen it. What I'm trying to achieve here is to get the thing somewhere to the point where I believe it can be aligned. I realize that I'm not going to get this perfect, most likely.
 
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Old Nov 27, 2013 | 08:30 AM
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You could call up some alignment shops and see if they would put the truck on their machine, but I guess they would charge you the full alignment charge since they have to get it all setup. Once they got it all setup a lot of the machines will tell them what bushing they need to install to get it in.

Or I guess you could go ahead and buy the most extreme bushing you can find, put it in yourself and dial it in roughly and see what happens. If it looked somewhat reasonable you could take it to the shop and see what happens.

Autozone can get the bushings. Look up caster/camber kit

 
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Old Nov 27, 2013 | 08:39 AM
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Thanks for your help. I'll do some work and post the results.
 
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Old Nov 28, 2013 | 05:55 PM
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check with napa. i lifted my sons 2wd ranger and i was able to buy fully adjustable bushings that could be dialed in all the way up to 4 degrees
 
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ok well here's what I ended up doing. I took out the springs that came with the lift and put in (MOOG part #) CC822. From what I've read on this forum these springs are stock replacements by the book but people have difficulty with them because they are a heavy duty spring and actually add lift (approx. 2"). So I put them in and that put me almost perfect, but by my measurements just slightly negative. I didn't want to fight with the camber bushings so I got some spacer washers that fit under the spring cup. I put in 1 x .25" washer on each side and took it for an alignment. The shop I took it to didn't adjust the camber for me.. just the toe, but I got the number. It was -1 degrees on both sides. What I've found online is the spec is -.3 +- .7 degrees. They fixed the toe (which is what I really wanted them to do anyway). I brought the truck home and added another .25" washer to each side to get me just a bit closer to zero. I think it'll be ok like that.
 
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