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Old Sep 29, 2013 | 08:33 AM
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Since your post was immediately after RideDiesel88's post, I assumed you were responding to his post .............

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No Problem, I am relatively new to the site and I have just figured out how to respond to an individuals comment. I was responding to the OP for what it's worth. I'm certainly not here to argue. I know far to little about the 6.0 to do anything close to that.
 
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Old Sep 29, 2013 | 10:44 AM
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First off my thanks to all. I think everyone was safe on their assumptions I feel the truck had run far enough, long enough, ECT to be at unloaded style operating temperatures. Now after a cold soak the temps koeo are ewt 67* eot 60.9* ambient temp. 75* It was my thoughts that the t-stat was working as the truck's high temp would reach 181* then would drop to 179* so I assume a 180* t-stat in good working order. Got to go back out today will see what numbers it produces. Again my thanks to all.
 
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Old Sep 29, 2013 | 11:29 AM
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First off my thanks to all. I think everyone was safe on their assumptions I feel the truck had run far enough, long enough, ECT to be at unloaded style operating temperatures. Now after a cold soak the temps koeo are ewt 67* eot 60.9* ambient temp. 75* It was my thoughts that the t-stat was working as the truck's high temp would reach 181* then would drop to 179* so I assume a 180* t-stat in good working order. Got to go back out today will see what numbers it produces. Again my thanks to all.
Your ECT seems right to me or at least it runs about equal to mine under the same ambient temp. Some say theirs runs up around 190* mine will do that if I work it but just cruising around town it will stay on the low side of the 180's and my EOT seems to want to stay around 8 to 10* above that maybe a bit less when not under any kind of load but ABOVE the ECT none the less. I hope this helps. Again, I am a relatively new 6.0 owner and my experiences are very limited.
 
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Old Sep 29, 2013 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by 56fordfella
First off my thanks to all. I think everyone was safe on their assumptions I feel the truck had run far enough, long enough, ECT to be at unloaded style operating temperatures. Now after a cold soak the temps koeo are ewt 67* eot 60.9* ambient temp. 75* It was my thoughts that the t-stat was working as the truck's high temp would reach 181* then would drop to 179* so I assume a 180* t-stat in good working order. Got to go back out today will see what numbers it produces. Again my thanks to all.
I would NOT consider that a working thermostat. Thermostat's are designed to fail OPEN so that you won't overheat. At the same time the motor won't be as efficient. IMHO you have a sensor problem with a 6 or 7* spread after a cold soak. Which it may be is debatable, but I'm betting it's the EOT. I spent the better part of an afternoon playing with temp sensors on my new motor because I had an extra sensor and a temp reading problem. It may be worth your time, if the sensor isn't too expensive, to purchase a new one, along with a new motorcraft thermostat, and see which two match.
 
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Old Sep 29, 2013 | 11:50 AM
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I would assume Fal hit it X2 on the senser, by switching the two would give a good result
 
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Old Sep 29, 2013 | 11:52 AM
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Tried to Rep ya Tim ,you know the rep goddess has the keys.
 
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Old Sep 29, 2013 | 05:40 PM
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Ok. New info. Interstate driving 70mph, 2100rpms, ICP floating from 1311 to 1482. Now back to water and oil. EWT 182* and EOT 126*. So npccpartsman might be on to something, stopped by the Zone and the t-stats rated at 190* no EOT sensor available but they do carry the EWT sensor. Now if I follow these post right it sounds like the two are interchangeable, right? Is there any other reason for the roughly 50* difference or go ahead and start changing out parts?
 
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Old Sep 29, 2013 | 05:46 PM
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You can swap them and see if the problem follows and if it does then replace the sensor.
 
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Old Sep 29, 2013 | 06:16 PM
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You also need to replace the t-stat. 182 is too cold. Min. 190. I normally run around 196 to 204. Diesels rely on compression and heat, with in design standards, for power and efficiency.
 
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Old Sep 30, 2013 | 05:02 AM
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You also need to replace the t-stat. 182 is too cold. Min. 190. I normally run around 196 to 204. Diesels rely on compression and heat, with in design standards, for power and efficiency.
First off let me start by saying I'm not looking for an argument just good info. So I will ask you this, when you are under no load other than the truck itself and chugging around town with the ambient temp say around 75* your ECT stays at or above 190*? I ask this because my truck stays closer to 180* and doesn't get that hot unless I'm towing or crowding it but after it gets to 190* under load it stays around that as long as I keep working it (indicating to me that the Tstat is functioning properly). I believe these motors like most other diesels bypass a certain minimal amount of coolant even with the Tstat closed at least any other diesel I know of does, therefore the temp should struggle to stay up to the Tstat temp when not under load. I'm curious as to whether or not this is what others experience with their 6.0's or if I should go get a Tstat and replace mine. Thanks for the input from one and all. Mcrafty1
 
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Old Sep 30, 2013 | 05:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Mcrafty1
First off let me start by saying I'm not looking for an argument just good info. So I will ask you this, when you are under no load other than the truck itself and chugging around town with the ambient temp say around 75* your ECT stays at or above 190*? I ask this because my truck stays closer to 180* and doesn't get that hot unless I'm towing or crowding it but after it gets to 190* under load it stays around that as long as I keep working it (indicating to me that the Tstat is functioning properly). I believe these motors like most other diesels bypass a certain minimal amount of coolant even with the Tstat closed at least any other diesel I know of does, therefore the temp should struggle to stay up to the Tstat temp when not under load. I'm curious as to whether or not this is what others experience with their 6.0's or if I should go get a Tstat and replace mine. Thanks for the input from one and all. Mcrafty1
I started a thread just because of this very question. My new thermostat's start out 188-190 and gradually fall off. I'm on my 3rd now and I can't believe that they all "fail" to the cold side, but they never seem to "recover" and correct operating temps are important.
 
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Old Sep 30, 2013 | 08:00 AM
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I did have this problem, my EOT was not getting up to operating temp. Cold soak was good, ECT and EOT were within 2 deg. I dug around by the oil temp sensor, made sure the wires were in good shape and not oil soaked burned ect. The next day EOT was back to normal.
 
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Old Sep 30, 2013 | 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by npccpartsman
I started a thread just because of this very question. My new thermostat's start out 188-190 and gradually fall off. I'm on my 3rd now and I can't believe that they all "fail" to the cold side, but they never seem to "recover" and correct operating temps are important.
I just got back from my first long trip with this truck. I had a small load on, about 2k lbs. 360 miles round trip and my coolant temp stayed around 177 deg. When the truck was under load the temps would go up. The highest it got was just over 200 deg going over a mountain. The thermostat is being ordered tomorrow.


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Old Sep 30, 2013 | 08:15 AM
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My ect's are always above 190 after warm up no matter wether loaded or unloaded. My eot's did go about 10 degrees cold on me a couple years ago. I unplugged and replugged the sensor and all has been well since. Weak connection is my assumption.
 
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Old Sep 30, 2013 | 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by 69cj
My ect's are always above 190 after warm up no matter wether loaded or unloaded. My eot's did go about 10 degrees cold on me a couple years ago. I unplugged and replugged the sensor and all has been well since. Weak connection is my assumption.
I am with 69cj Mine does the same after I replaced the T-stat.

By reading this I think the Op has a bad T-stat and most likely a
bad EOT sensor. You can test it or swap it out for a new one.
A diesel likes it heat to a point. Running a cold engine will lower the
combustion efficiency.

Sean
 
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