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Old Oct 21, 2013 | 06:34 PM
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I had the truck in the air, I locked in the hubs and engaged the 4x4 switch. The front axels turned freely without the front driveshaft turning. Does that tell us anything?
To me that means the TC isnt engaging.
You know, again I don't know if our SD system has a vacuum actuator at the Diff (my truck is not here to check), or if it's vacuum at the hubs to engage them. You'd know if you replaced the hubs. But if it's the latter (@ hubs) and you manually engage the hubs and DON'T get a turning front drive shaft, there's more than one thing wrong.

I'll bow out as the others here know more about this than me -- I'm becoming an expert on a '97 F150 4x4 system pretty quick tho.... Friend's boyfriend split and her 4x4 just stopped working
 
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Old Oct 21, 2013 | 06:51 PM
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You know, again I don't know if our SD system has a vacuum actuator at the Diff (my truck is not here to check), or if it's vacuum at the hubs to engage them. You'd know if you replaced the hubs. But if it's the latter (@ hubs) and you manually engage the hubs and DON'T get a turning front drive shaft, there's more than one thing wrong.

I'll bow out as the others here know more about this than me -- I'm becoming an expert on a '97 F150 4x4 system pretty quick tho.... Friend's boyfriend split and her 4x4 just stopped working
Its vacuum at the hub.
 
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Old Oct 21, 2013 | 06:55 PM
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The service manual discusses electronics under the hood that control the engagement of the transfer case (motor on the side of the transfer case). Check the two relays by the drivers side battery . They are in a small box 1.5"x3". They are for the shift motor. You can spray some contact cleaner in the plugs to get any gunk or oxidation out.
 
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Old Oct 21, 2013 | 07:00 PM
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Maybe this will help. At least it's a start.
 
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Old Oct 21, 2013 | 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by bismic
The service manual discusses electronics under the hood that control the engagement of the transfer case (motor on the side of the transfer case). Check the two relays by the drivers side battery . They are in a small box 1.5"x3". They are for the shift motor. You can spray some contact cleaner in the plugs to get any gunk or oxidation out.
I think the manual refers to them as clockwise and counterclockwise shift relays. They should throw a code if they're bad.
 
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Old Oct 21, 2013 | 07:21 PM
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Here's some more reading material.... DChamberlain had some good diagnostic testing tips.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...50-diesel.html
 
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Old Oct 21, 2013 | 10:48 PM
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did you diagnose it?
 
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Old Oct 21, 2013 | 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Guzzo
did you diagnose it?
If that was meant for me: I'm down to the xfer case shift actuator motor or the GEM module that controls the whole shebang -- have to get together with her this weekend to figure out which (it'll help that I'll have my multimeter this time ). Front end all works fine -- it's in the xfer case and I'm betting the motor itself -- $100 or less for that and a few bolts... (plus a few beers for me)
 
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Old Oct 21, 2013 | 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by diesel_dan
If that was meant for me: I'm down to the xfer case shift actuator motor or the GEM module that controls the whole shebang -- have to get together with her this weekend to figure out which (it'll help that I'll have my multimeter this time ). Front end all works fine -- it's in the xfer case and I'm betting the motor itself -- $100 or less for that and a few bolts... (plus a few beers for me)
sweet!

i never thought about that.. always thinking out of the box!

glad you dialed in on it!
 
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Old Oct 22, 2013 | 07:37 AM
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Sweet! I should be able to diagnose this now that I have a better understanding of the components. Now if I can just find the time...
Thanks for all the input!
 
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Old Oct 22, 2013 | 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Clay H
Sweet! I should be able to diagnose this now that I have a better understanding of the components. Now if I can just find the time...
Thanks for all the input!
keep me posted!
 
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Old Oct 22, 2013 | 08:37 AM
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keep me posted!
I'll definitely report back on my findings.
Thanks again.
 
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Old Oct 27, 2013 | 11:15 PM
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So today I made some progress. I pulled the skid plate, and unpluged the 2 wire plug on the bottom of the TC. Key on, 4x4 switch on and no power at the plug. I put 12v to the motor and heard it kick in and engage. Looked at the dash and the 4x4 and LOW lights were on. So I reverse polarity on the motor and disengaged it. So I know the TC shift motor (or whatever you call it) is working and thats all the time I had.
Nice to have a 2 post lift for this stuff.
So what do I check next, the switch?
 
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Old Oct 27, 2013 | 11:35 PM
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Next would be checking the switch. Haven't heard of the switches going bad but its possible.
 
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Old Oct 28, 2013 | 01:21 AM
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Have you tried swapping the relays?
 
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