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Old Sep 14, 2013 | 12:28 PM
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Replacing the solenoid

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Last couple days my '77 F150 has been having trouble starting. Figured out the solenoid was blown, so I ordered a new one from LMC trucks..

Just putting it in today. I replaced the old solenoid with the new one, put all the wiring back in place. Now when I put the battery cable back on the terminal, the truck tries to start! I can't see what I did wrong here; I put everything the way it was with the old solenoid. Is it possible I got the wrong one?

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Old Sep 14, 2013 | 12:37 PM
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It even tries to start with the Start and Ignition wires off ("S" and "I" wires)
 
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Old Sep 14, 2013 | 12:59 PM
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It is very possible the new solenoid is bad. If you have a meter, check for continuity between the two large terminals. Should be none till voltage is applied to "S" term. Only thing I can think of that would make it do it even with "S' and "I" wires disconnected.( Providing you didn't place battery cable and starter cable to the same term)
 
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Old Sep 14, 2013 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by bttf
Last couple days my '77 F150 has been having trouble starting. Figured out the solenoid was blown, so I ordered a new one from LMC trucks..
What were the specific symptoms? How was the solenoid "blown?" What specifically was wrong with the original solenoid (would not make, etc) and how was the failure observed?

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Now when I put the battery cable back on the terminal, the truck tries to start! I can't see what I did wrong here; I put everything the way it was with the old solenoid. Is it possible I got the wrong one?
Are you saying you connect the positive battery cable last? If so, never do this. When servicing the solenoid, disconnect the battery. To safely disconnect the battery, disconnect negative first, and re-connect it last. Anytime you touch the positive cable, the negative should be disconnected.

Are the 'S' and 'I' wires already in place when do you do this? What is the position of the key?
 
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Old Sep 14, 2013 | 01:30 PM
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The truck wouldn't start one day. The solenoid would just click. I short circuited the battery to the starter and the starter worked fine, engine started up fine.

Today I replaced the solenoid. First I removed the positive cable from the battery. Then I removed all the wires from the solenoid terminals. Then I removed the solenoid and replaced it with the new one. I replaced all the wires, starting with the starter cable, to the ignition wires, back to the positive wire. Last thing I did was put the positive cable back on the battery. Next time, I'll have to remove the negative first.

The ignition was OFF the entire time; keys were not in the ignition.

First time I tried, the S and I wires were connected. As soon as I made contact with the battery, it tried to start.

Second time, I removed both S and I wires. Same behavior.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2013 | 02:24 PM
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Sounds like a bad solenoid then. There should be no continuity between the two large studs without the solenoid grounded and power applied to the 'S' terminal. I recommend picking up a premium-brand solenoid from your favorite parts house; the $20 ones fail early and often (LMC is most likely a marked up value brand, especially if it came in a white box).
 
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Old Sep 14, 2013 | 03:36 PM
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I have had this happen also with a new solenoid and had to get a new one and the new one worked. Most local parts stores carry them in stock.
 
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