Notices
1983 - 2012 Ranger & B-Series All Ford Ranger and Mazda B-Series models

Quirky start-up

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Sep 12, 2013 | 06:43 PM
  #1  
FlyingHigh85's Avatar
FlyingHigh85
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
Quirky start-up

For the last few days, my Ranger has been acting quirky during starts. About half the time, it starts normally. For the other half of the time, though, I can hear the starter engage, but the engine doesn't turn-over. When it does this, the smell of unburnt fuel is pretty strong.

A few months ago, I noticed the battery terminals were pretty corroded, so I cleaned them. I looked at the terminals today, and they were a little corroded, but not much. However, when I took the lead terminals themselves off the positive and negative cables, there was a lot of corrosion where the positive cable clamps to the lead terminal. The corrosion wasn't noticeable until I unbolted the cables from the terminals, but the positive cable was SO corroded, I'm a little suprised the battery was charging at all. I cleaned the cables, clamps, and battery posts and used a bit of dielectric grease to prevent future corrosion.

Since I cleaned the battery cables/posts, I've run the truck for about an hour, but start-ups are still sometimes quirky (starter engages, but engine doesn't turn-over).

Could the starter be going bad? Maybe the teeth on the starter and/or the flywheel are damaged? Maybe a problem with the ignition system? Engine timing?

Truck info:
2003 Ranger 2WD 2.3L 5-spd 158k-miles

I've had the truck about 1.5-years with no issues except for a failing water pump a few months ago. The pump failed while I was on the road, but I pulled over immediately and shut-off the engine. It didn't overheat. I towed it home and changed the pump in the driveway.

I've only done the really neccessary maintenance on the truck since I bought it (checked all the fluids when I first bought it, changed the air filter, flushed the cooling system and put fresh 50/50 in, motor oil changes every 2500-mi). I have new spark plugs, wires, coil pack, and fuel filter that I plan to install this weekend. I'm not sure if the timing chain has ever been replaced, but I hear they're kind of a pain to change on this dohc motor.
 
Reply
Old Sep 12, 2013 | 11:07 PM
  #2  
michigan66's Avatar
michigan66
Posting Guru
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 1,533
Likes: 1
From: Dexter, MI
Take your truck to an auto parts store (AutoZone, O'Reillys, for example) and ask them for a free check of the starting system. Do more diagnostic work before putting more money on parts for now.

Changing spark plugs and wire is a good idea, but be sure to use either Motorcraft or Autolite iridium plugs and Motorcraft wires. Ranger engines are fussy about the brand of plugs and wires that are used.
 
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2013 | 07:57 AM
  #3  
pawpaw's Avatar
pawpaw
Moderator
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 13,851
Likes: 111
From: SW Va
Club FTE Gold Member
^+1 on checking the starter out & while your there, have them do an electrical system under load checkup with their portable electrical system tester. With all of the corrosion on the battery connections, it suggests a charging, or maybe a battery ageing problem. If you have removable battery cell caps, have you checked the battery electrolyte level????
 
Reply
Old Oct 5, 2013 | 12:17 PM
  #4  
FlyingHigh85's Avatar
FlyingHigh85
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
I think the problem is definitely the starter. Sometimes, when starting, I hear the starter motor spin (a whirring noise), but the engine isn't turning over. I think this is because the diaphragm (or spring?) in the starter solenoid isn't pushing the bendix gear of the starter up so that it makes contact with the flywheel. I heard you can tap on the starter solenoid (NOT the starter itself-might damage magnets) to free-up the spring inside the solenoid. I haven't tried this, waiting to see what you guys say.

Would you all suggest I try rebuilding the starter and solenoid or should I just buy a new one. My local parts store wants $175 for a starter. I can get one online (amazon.com) shipped from DB Electrical out of Tennessee for $60 (+$5 shipping), and it has a full 1-year warranty.

As for the battery, I think the previous owner replaced the positive battery terminal clamp with a cheap one. All the corrosion was on the steel parts of the clamp. I replaced the clamp with what I think is a better quality one and the battery passed a diagnostic test at my local parts store. Plus, two weeks and no corrosion.

For the past couple of days, I've been roll-starting the truck (parking on a hill, then rolling down it and popping the clutch while in first) when I need to use it. I haven't tried using the starter because I heard a grinding noise for the first time a couple of days ago. Apparently the bendix gear of the starter wasn't making full contact with the flywheel. I only heard the grinding noise once (before it was just a whirring noise) and I haven't used the starter since. Hopefully I haven't damaged the flywheel.
 
Reply
Old Oct 5, 2013 | 01:15 PM
  #5  
pawpaw's Avatar
pawpaw
Moderator
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 13,851
Likes: 111
From: SW Va
Club FTE Gold Member
Those replacement battery cable clamps are for temporary use only & are prone to all sorts of problems with voltage drop, so I'd look for an OEM quality replacement cable. You might do an under load voltage drop test at the starter, to see if its getting full battery voltage there. If its low, the starter solenoid & motor will be wimpy & maybe not work right.

If all that seems right, remove the starter & solenoid for inspection & or clean up of the bendix mechanicals & electrical connections & test them with battery jumper cables, or run them by your favorite autoparts store for a no cost bench test, before springing for those costly replacements. If the starter checks bad & you have a local rebuild shop, have them estimate repairs, you might be surprised!!!!

Let us know how it goes.
 
Reply
Old Oct 29, 2013 | 07:18 PM
  #6  
FlyingHigh85's Avatar
FlyingHigh85
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
I did a voltage drop test while a friend cranked the engine and I saw a reading of 0.21-volts. I was told anything under 0.5V was acceptable. I replaced the cheap battery post clamp with a better quality clamp.

Removing the starter wasn't too bad. I just had to take out the plastic inner wheel well to get easy access to it. Once the starter was out of it, I tested it with jumper cables and the bendix gear isn't moving up like it should. It seems to be stuck in the down position. The teeth on the gear of the starter and the teeth on the flywheel (the ones that were visible) didn't look worn at all.

I bought the $60 starter from db electrical as mentioned above. I installed it and have been using it for a couple of weeks and it seems to be doing what it's supposed to.

If I get time, I might look into rebuilding the old starter to keep as a backup or to sell.
 
Reply
Old Oct 29, 2013 | 09:51 PM
  #7  
pawpaw's Avatar
pawpaw
Moderator
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 13,851
Likes: 111
From: SW Va
Club FTE Gold Member
OK, good feedback, sounds like you have a good grip on the problem.
 
Reply
Old Oct 31, 2013 | 08:17 PM
  #8  
FlyingHigh85's Avatar
FlyingHigh85
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
Thanks for all the help.

The worst part of the job was unbolting the factory starter. The bolts were really torqued and I couldn't get my big, clumsy impact wrench on them, so I had to drain the coolant and power steering fluid so I could move some hoses in order to get a long-handled 1/2" ratchet on them. It probably would have been easier if I had a smaller or low-profile impact wrench.

How important is it to use the plugs and wires that michigan66 suggested? I'm using Bosch plugs with Autolite wires and they seem to be doing the job. Since I replaced the wires, there is a noticeable difference in power, especially at low rpms while under load.

Next on the to-do list is an exhaust leak. It sounds like it's coming from around the exhaust manifold. A preliminary look-see turned up no obvious cracks anywhere, and it's a FL truck with no serious rust anywhere. I've heard somewhere that the stock exhaust manifold gasket is notorious for rotting-out for this motor. This weekend I'll try a rag-in-the-tailpipe test to try and locate the leak.
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalytic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

 Brett Foote
story-3

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
story-4

AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

 Brett Foote
story-5

Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-6

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

 Brett Foote
story-9

2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

 Michael S. Palmer
Old Oct 31, 2013 | 08:33 PM
  #9  
JWC 3's Avatar
JWC 3
Lead Driver
10 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
Loved
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 7,877
Likes: 49
From: Tennessee
The wires don't bother me . But ... I have a 5 gallon bucket of Bosch plugs that I have pulled out of various autos because of no starts and misfires . Most are nearly new ! I would ditch them fast ! and get some Motorcraft or or NGK .
 
Reply
Old Oct 31, 2013 | 09:50 PM
  #10  
pawpaw's Avatar
pawpaw
Moderator
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 13,851
Likes: 111
From: SW Va
Club FTE Gold Member
On the plugs, opt for the specified iridium enhanced finewire center electrode with platinum pad sidewire plugs, as they're designed to take the double work load our waste spark ignition system puts on them.

Gap the plugs with a wire gauge, to the low end of the gap spec, but go slow & ease up on the gap, to be careful & not force the gap gauge through a too tight gap, so as not to damage the finewire center electrode, or platinum pad on the side wire. Add a small amount of nickel anti-sieze to the threads & using a torque wrench, tighten them to the Low side of spec, to allow for the anti-sieze lube effect, so as to not overtighten them.
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Kyle Wood
1973 - 1979 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
8
Jul 10, 2019 10:36 PM
john fin
1948 - 1956 F1, F100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
30
Nov 14, 2011 12:52 PM
wripley7
1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks
7
Jul 7, 2009 10:33 PM
chucky0094
1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks
8
Aug 31, 2008 08:34 PM
toolman7715
1983 - 2012 Ranger & B-Series
15
Dec 3, 2003 08:20 AM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:44 PM.

story-0
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalytic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-30 18:33:59


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-2
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-4
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-5
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-6
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE
story-8
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

Slideshow: first look at the 810 hp 2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road!

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-12 12:50:07


VIEW MORE
story-9
2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

Slideshow: Everything You Need to Know about the 2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-07 17:51:06


VIEW MORE