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Old 09-09-2013, 09:10 PM
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looking at a 97 powerstroke

i am going to go look at a 97 power stroke f250 4x4. would like to know what are the most important things to look at as far as the motor.
its got 270,000. says it starts fine down to 30 degrees, lower than that it has to be plugged in. trans lock up converter not working correctly.
any tips on the key things to look at on a diesel would be appreciated.

thanks scott
 
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Old 09-09-2013, 09:23 PM
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Somebody will come along with that list of things to look for. If the TC isn't locking, it might be a sign of the trans going south.
 
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Old 09-09-2013, 09:29 PM
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Check the brake lights and turn signals; yes, they can muck with the TC locking....
 
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mainly the third brake light. If it is out, it can mess with it, like he said.
 
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Sounds like it needs some glowplug work too. Glow plugs, gp relay, valve cover gasket, vc pig tail, under valve cover harness
 
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Things to check.
Oil/Trans Fluid.
Shortly after getting my 97 ford f350 powerstroke -I noticed my trans was acting up. It had a slow leak - It was low on fluid. I thought i was gonna be inneed of a new trans -The guys here kept me in check.

7.3 are known for leaking fuel down the valley and on top of the bell housing - The fuel will leak out the Tq converter service plate. (causes - Bad fuel pump- Fuel Lines/hoses-Water drain valve-There is a sensor that plugs to the fuel filter housing that goes bad and causes leaks as well)

Something to keep a eye out for.
Look threw the grill top left of the radiator you will see the Tran cooler- About a foot long and as wide as a shoe. If its been upgraded It will be bigger.
Most commonly they are upgraded to help the trans run cooler.

The Tq could be having issue for many reason and as stated above it could be a sign of the trans going out. Also a clogged trans filter can cause issue with the TQ. Look up the signs of a failed Tq/c They can vary.
Stalling - Delayed shift - Most times trans fluid will smell brunet. Weird metal sounds from tranny/Tq.

Most times they will puke trans fluid all over the place.

Hope Iv helped!
 
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Here is the aforementioned list:

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Things To Look For When Buying A Used Power Stroke Diesel

Turbo:

You might take the air tube off the back of the air filter and look inside of it. If there is dirt build up, that is a very bad sign, so are the turbo fins looking sand blasted or bent. A little oily film is normal since the valve cover breather exits inside the tube.

Airbox:

Check the two bolts holding down the airbox lid. If they are plastic with a square recess, it is a recalled part. The recall is expired, but without the updated lid the risk of dirt infiltration is greater, the lid was updated with more supports and the updated bolts are metal with a straight slot. If it is the old style, you spend around $80 to update it.

Tranny:

If you buy a truck with an auto tranny, finding out if it's been maintained is essential, as the E4OD is an expensive transmission. Also, (if auto) seeing if the truck has an auxiliary transmission cooler would be worthwhile. For sticks, listen for clunking when shutting off or small vibration while operating. It could be an indication of a dual mass flywheel going out. Many have replaced them with single mass units.

Rear Gear Ratio:

4:10 will pull better, get slightly lower mpg’s and run a higher RPM compared to 3:55.
Coolant:

Ask the previous owner about the coolant - have they been adding FW16 or DCA4 to keep a proper SCA level? It is very important for stopping cavitation. You can get test strips to check the SCA level from NAPA, International, or Ford. I would test the current condition while looking over the truck, the SCA level should be between 1.5 and 3.0. Also, see if it has a block heater (it was an option on 97's).

Front end:

Check the front end for wear, or have an alignment shop check out the ball joints and steering linkage (tie rod ends). If they are shot, it is spendy (all four tie rods are around $400 just for parts, ball joint labor is also very spendy)
Oil:

The questions to ask are how often the oil was changed (at least every 5,000) and what kind of oil they used (diesel rated)? An oil analysis could tell you if there might be an engine problem or not.

Aftermarket stuff:

Seeing if the truck has got an aftermarket downpipe would be nice, a chip, or gauges (pyrometer, trans temp, etc.). Ask about any added items and who installed them.

Glow Plugs/Relay:

Find out if the glow plugs are in good working condition as well as the relay. Ask if either has been changed and when. You can check the glow plug resistance through the valve cover connector if needed (http://forums.ford-diesel.com/cgi-bi...&f=21&t=005210), and the relay should have power to both large terminals on top when the key is turned on, and one of the terminals should go out before ~2 minutes.

Injector o-rings:

The injector O-rings have been known to be a problem. The new o-ring sets have a pink middle seal. If the truck has an o-ring problem, one of the signs can be a discoloration of the fuel in the filter bowl. There is a drain on the passenger side front of the filter bowl for draining water (the filter is also the water separator) and you can catch some of the drained fuel in a jar – it should be dingy yellow and not blue or dark.

Leaks and Drips:

You can check the valley between the heads of the V8 for moisture and/or fluid. It should be dry not wet. Most leaks will run through this valley and down the back of the motor dripping off by the tranny/engine coupling.
VIN number:

If you take the VIN to any dealer, they can tell you when it was built, when it went into service, and some of the work that might have been done on it. You can also run prospective VIN's through Carfax.com to see the title history.
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this is some really good stuff thanks a bunch.
I guess the tranny shifts n holds, just a problem with lockin up. he put a switch in it supposedly to manually do this. would make u think it may have something to do with the brake lites.
also have a temp sensor fault the pops up randomly.
trying to go look at it today.

thanks for all the replies.
 
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Old 09-10-2013, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by srpservices
this is some really good stuff thanks a bunch.
I guess the tranny shifts n holds, just a problem with lockin up. he put a switch in it supposedly to manually do this. would make u think it may have something to do with the brake lites.
also have a temp sensor fault the pops up randomly.
trying to go look at it today.

thanks for all the replies.
what part of the country are you in? The price seems to fluctuate wildly depending on where you are and how much rust. Can't remember if it is in the list, but check the shackles too, they rust out and you have to replace.
 
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Old 09-10-2013, 11:34 AM
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This is beginning to sound like a truck that's been rode hard and put up wet....
 
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Old 09-10-2013, 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by srpservices
this is some really good stuff thanks a bunch.
I guess the tranny shifts n holds, just a problem with lockin up. he put a switch in it supposedly to manually do this. would make u think it may have something to do with the brake lites.
also have a temp sensor fault the pops up randomly.
trying to go look at it today.

thanks for all the replies.
Check the switch he could have it wired wrong.... Maybe -
One wire leaving the switch should go down to the wiring hardness on the Trans - The other wire leaving the switch should go to a ground. (No power to it) If he has ran it to something with power - it could be weirding the system out.
The trans wire should be coming from the trans harness right under your drivers seat that is purple with a yellow stripe on it....

Also check fuses- under the hood and inside the truck.
Look for a flashing O/D light.
Since youll be under the truck - check all the trans wiring harness.

What is your location.

If the truck has the e4od I can get it here for 250$ with a warranty from my friend out at a scrap yard. We would have to pull it our selfs tho.



Like I said in the post before - check your trans fluid for burned smells. Dead sign of a dead Tq.
 
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Here is the aforementioned list:

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Things To Look For When Buying A Used Power Stroke Diesel

Turbo:

You might take the air tube off the back of the air filter and look inside of it. If there is dirt build up, that is a very bad sign, so are the turbo fins looking sand blasted or bent. A little oily film is normal since the valve cover breather exits inside the tube.

Airbox:

Check the two bolts holding down the airbox lid. If they are plastic with a square recess, it is a recalled part. The recall is expired, but without the updated lid the risk of dirt infiltration is greater, the lid was updated with more supports and the updated bolts are metal with a straight slot. If it is the old style, you spend around $80 to update it.

Tranny:

If you buy a truck with an auto tranny, finding out if it's been maintained is essential, as the E4OD is an expensive transmission. Also, (if auto) seeing if the truck has an auxiliary transmission cooler would be worthwhile. For sticks, listen for clunking when shutting off or small vibration while operating. It could be an indication of a dual mass flywheel going out. Many have replaced them with single mass units.

Rear Gear Ratio:

4:10 will pull better, get slightly lower mpg’s and run a higher RPM compared to 3:55.
Coolant:

Ask the previous owner about the coolant - have they been adding FW16 or DCA4 to keep a proper SCA level? It is very important for stopping cavitation. You can get test strips to check the SCA level from NAPA, International, or Ford. I would test the current condition while looking over the truck, the SCA level should be between 1.5 and 3.0. Also, see if it has a block heater (it was an option on 97's).

Front end:

Check the front end for wear, or have an alignment shop check out the ball joints and steering linkage (tie rod ends). If they are shot, it is spendy (all four tie rods are around $400 just for parts, ball joint labor is also very spendy)
Oil:

The questions to ask are how often the oil was changed (at least every 5,000) and what kind of oil they used (diesel rated)? An oil analysis could tell you if there might be an engine problem or not.

Aftermarket stuff:

Seeing if the truck has got an aftermarket downpipe would be nice, a chip, or gauges (pyrometer, trans temp, etc.). Ask about any added items and who installed them.

Glow Plugs/Relay:

Find out if the glow plugs are in good working condition as well as the relay. Ask if either has been changed and when. You can check the glow plug resistance through the valve cover connector if needed (http://forums.ford-diesel.com/cgi-bi...&f=21&t=005210), and the relay should have power to both large terminals on top when the key is turned on, and one of the terminals should go out before ~2 minutes.

Injector o-rings:

The injector O-rings have been known to be a problem. The new o-ring sets have a pink middle seal. If the truck has an o-ring problem, one of the signs can be a discoloration of the fuel in the filter bowl. There is a drain on the passenger side front of the filter bowl for draining water (the filter is also the water separator) and you can catch some of the drained fuel in a jar – it should be dingy yellow and not blue or dark.

Leaks and Drips:

You can check the valley between the heads of the V8 for moisture and/or fluid. It should be dry not wet. Most leaks will run through this valley and down the back of the motor dripping off by the tranny/engine coupling.
VIN number:

If you take the VIN to any dealer, they can tell you when it was built, when it went into service, and some of the work that might have been done on it. You can also run prospective VIN's through Carfax.com to see the title history.
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Nice clean and clear. Very good write up...
 
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check the radiator core support for cracks, usually about at the edge of the radiator on the left and right side. I see the 4wd trucks crack the most from articulation.
 
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Nice clean and clear. Very good write up...
Thanks but I can't take credit for anything but copying and pasting it into the post. I didn't write it so it's not my work...
 
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I had the TC issue when my right brake light went out. I couldn't/can't believe it still.
 


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