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Did you cut he roots you can see? What are you putting there? Cut it off below grade and cover it up. It will rot.
Yes, I did cut all of the roots that we see in that picture. There must be a thick, deep tap root. I wasn't going to do this, but I might just make that the fire pit site now. Maybe with the roots cut, it will dry out now, and burn. Of course, it's kind of personal now. I've spent about an hour digging more from under the tree. I'm going to buy a better tow strap and try one more time. Probably over the weekend.
OK, here is attempt #1. I cut the roots, and put the rope underneath all of the roots. I know I'm working against the strength of the stump, but am really unable to get any leverage since I already cut it too low to the ground. As you'll see, it doesn't budge. I'll post video #2 as soon as it uploads.
Here is video #2. I tied the rope to the top of the stump to try and get leverage. Still doesn't budge. The knot came loose, and I failed. I'm going to buy a tow strap or chain and try again this weekend. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCo6I...ature=youtu.be
2 hrs with that hand held type will do it easily.closer to 1 hr.
if i was local and driving by with my grinder (just to fit you in within the week sometime) id grind it out for $50 and it would take more time to unload my grinder than it would to grind the thing.id be in and out in under 15-20 mins.all you'd have left would be a hole to fill.
your trying way too hard by not just calling a local tree service to get a quote.seriously.yet you risk braking your truck and hurting your dog and struggling for hours upon hours in the attempt to save 50-75 bucks lol.
if that rope snapped and hit your dog,just imagine the cost for the vet if it didn't kill him.
if the stump came loose like you wanted and flung into your tail gate,just imagine the cost to replace it and likely the bumper too.
stop.think.act last.
2 hrs with that hand held type will do it easily.closer to 1 hr.
if i was local and driving by with my grinder (just to fit you in within the week sometime) id grind it out for $50 and it would take more time to unload my grinder than it would to grind the thing.id be in and out in under 15-20 mins.all you'd have left would be a whole to fill.
your trying way too hard by not just calling a local tree service to get a quote.seriously.yet you risk braking your truck and hurting your dog and struggling for hours upon hours in the attempt to save 50-75 bucks lol.
if that rope snapped and hit your dog,just imagine the cost for the vet if it didn't kill him.
if the stump came loose like you wanted and flung into your tail gate,just imagine the cost to replace it and likely the bumper too.
stop.think.act last.
Well, obviously you are correct. The smart thing to do would be to grind it. But now it's kind of personal. I guess I am stubborn to a fault. Like I posted in the youtube comments, I didn't really push the truck to the limit for fear of breaking something. I'm digging a bit deeper and have a few more roots underneath exposed, so I'll give it another whirl this weekend.
first off jack, you need a bigger rope, that might work for pulling around a go kart or something but not pulling stumps, second of all dont pull it, i screwed up a nice Luverne all chrome 9000 pound rated bumper pulling a stump the third of the size of yours, burn it or grind it, yeah its not gonna be instantaneous like pulling it but sometimes a person actually has to put some effort into something to get the job done, everyone wants instant gratification and that just aint how it is in this situation
Have you tried pulling in the other direction? You can see the rope stretch and that may cause the stump to fly That makes me nervous. Don't use things that stretch like an elastic band...........Are you in 4WD LOW RANGE? I know people have said not to use a chain, but if your strap or rope stretches then when it comes free and the stretch comes out, that is when things fly. I have never seen a chain spring back. That is not to say it cant happen, but there are lots of old farmers that use chains. They do say it is one of the most dangerous professions though. Oh yeah, I think logging is the most dangerous. May be we should stop right here and think about that...............We have chains we have stretched so much that the links have become elongated and lost their shape but no spring back. I have seen a Massey Ferguson pull the bumper out strait on a stuck F600 with a chain with no spring back. It took 150 HP Ferguson (that's big enough to run a 3 row corn chopper) pulling and a D6 Bulldozer pushing behind to get it out.
The tree guy is right. Forget personal. Cut it off below grade and bury it. Make a fire pit and burn it. Or work out a stump grinding deal. Buying the chain you will need will cost more and there is always risk. Pulling the other direction may just peel it up too.
Smores anyone? You definitely have enough dirt out for it to get air under it and burn out now. However, if it were me and it became a personal vendetta, fire wouldn't be painful enough for the stump. Whenever you are pulling you want any bystanders (including your dog) to be to the side. Not to the rear or front of the pull, but at a 90 degree angle. They should also be at least two times the distance than your strap or chain is long. If your chain or strap is 20 foot long than bystanders should be at least 40 feet away. The reason you want them to the side is if the chain or strap breaks under tension it is going one of two ways most likely. It will travel in the general direction of the pull, either at your truck or at the stump depending on which one it breaks closer to. I would recommend a tripod for the video camera (or zoom fro a distance). A rug or blanket over the strap or chain will act as a sail and use the air to slow it if it comes disconnected. This said I have used chains for far bigger pulls and I have seen one fail. It is rare but it does happen. Sadly the rear window didn't make it that time. But that was a really old and worn out chain we never should have still been using. If you do use a chain make sure it is in decent shape. Also, get one big enough for the job. I never use chains smaller than 1.5" but those are expensive new. A new 12,000# tow strap is much cheaper. The tow strap will stretch some but not as much as that rope.
Strap, Chain, Grinding, or Fire are all viable ways to do it. You've almost got it out now. Since you have so much subsurface exposed now you could also go at it with the chainsaw again and just cut it out below the ground and fill in the hole.
After watching those videos. My vote is to burn the stump out.
A couple years ago, my boss tried to pull a stump with a New Holland T7050 195 HP Tractor. It was actually a fairly small stump and looked like a very easy pull. The chain broke and because of the high angle on the chain, came up broke into the cab and grazed the side of this face.
He was really lucky to be alive. He suffered only a broken cheek bone and had to walk around with one half of his face being completely swollen and black and blue. It broke the glass and bent the frame on the tractor cab. But the biggest mess was the blood on the interior of the tractor that had less than 500 hours on it.
Some trees are very stubborn. I've had smaller stumps give me lots of trouble, and I've have larger stumps pop right out. My setup was always choke chain on the stump, snap strap to the chain, strap to a clevis on the receiver hitch of the truck. I would first let the rigging go tight, give a very light touch of throttle in 4low. If that didn't pop it, back up 5ft, hit the gas & back off as the rope goes tight (use the trucks weight...opposite of what you were doing). Still not out? Back up 10feet, get a running start, barely keep my foot in it when things went tight. I never had a stump fly into the truck. That stump probably has a deep, thick center root and without some leverage it will give you lot's of trouble. Lesson learned, don't cut tree to a small stump in the future.
What can I say, it just felt right. It did take some fighting to sink that catch. Hardest of which being keeping the rears on the walkways worth of concrete. Mine's got an open diff, so as soon as one hit gravel, it lost grip. Go back, readjust, tug a bit more, repeat
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