I was looking at the carburetor ye seen the 2100 auotolite 1.23, as used, motors 351W, 390, 302. I wonder why not serve for my 292.
thanks

 

I just found this thread again. Nice solid looking truck. I am so glad you are
going to try and keep the original (or close to it) drive train.

200HP should not be a problem. With better heads, Header, Carb and a later model distributor you should reach that maybe a little more.

Does the 3 speed transmission have an over drive?

Again nice ride, And I like where you are going with the build.



Could we see some pictures? Here is how.


But I got ta say becoming a supporter is the fastest and easiest way to post pics right from
your whatever pad/cell thing or home computer.
Few of us look in the users Gallery or album as you can see by your recent visitors.


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Here's How to Post Pictures:
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You can also go to the "Garage" tab and start an album right here on FTE. After you post pictures to an album, we can look in your album, but you'll also be able to "insert a picture" by pasting in a link to the picture in your album.

It seems awkward, but whenever you "insert a picture" to one of these threads, the forum is looking for the picture somewhere on the web (which is always available) rather than from somewhere on your hard drive (which isn't always available).

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Welcome to FTE!

Go to Image hosting, free photo sharing & video sharing at Photobucket and sign up for a free account. Then create an album for your truck. Upload any pics you want to post on FTE to that album. Have this album open on your computer when you want to post pics on FTE.

While you're making a post on FTE, select the pic you want to post from your Photobucket album. When the large version of the pic is open, right mouse click on it and select "View Image Info". The image info will be highlighted and will look something like this:
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Your pic will be placed in the post.

Hope that helps.

Here's a tutorial Bob put together: https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/67...-pictures.html

 

If you look at the BASE of the carburetor, on the flange, below the 1.23, there is a combination of letters, numbers. That is the ID, and will tell exactly what it was used for originally. Most 1.23s were used on 390 cubic inch engines. A very few in 1969, if I remember correctly, were used on 351s.
In 1969 there was also a 1.23 offered on 302, but unless you can find that exact ID, I suggest forgetting it.

 

I ran a 1.23 off a 390 on a 289. Saw one on a 302 Mustang, '68 iirc.

Not sure why you think they won't work on a 292. OP may have to fiddle with the choke and maybe rejet, depending on what he finds when he runs it.

Of course, the smaller carb will run cleaner and crisper in the low revs, but the 1.23 isn't like a Holley 500 for drowning the engine.

Am I missing something, or have you tried it and found it to just not "adjust" to the 292?

 

The 1.23 in '69 came on a Torino, perhaps mustang. They were tuned at the factory for the smaller cars. Yes it will work, but in my opinion not well. It isnt just the engine size, but vehicle. Rich, high idle, slower throttle response in low rpm's, high gas consumption. No I havent tried one of these on a 292. Only have used 1.02, 1.08 and 1.14. I've rebuilt around 100 of the 2100s of all sizes.

Some guys will take something like a 1.21 and adapt them down to a small 6 cylinder, say in the neighborhood of 250 cubes. They love it. But they would love it more if the 2100 was smaller.

These arent very tuneable. A couple jets sizes larger or smaller, adjustment of float level and idle screws, place the accelerator pump rod higher or lower on the lever, that is about all that can be done.

The 292 as far as the carb is concerned, is an air pump, basically the same size as a 289, but known for its torque at low rpms. That can suffer IMHO with the 1.23.

 

Thanks for the update. I was more concerned with running the tach up as far as it would go in those days, so I will defer to your experience here.

Thanks again,

 

One difference I forgot to mention between smaller and large units, is the squirter nozzle size/diamter. The large versions squirt out like an elephant, and the smaller ones like us older citizens. And the squirter size cant be changed.

 

Torque relies upon fuel-air being fed at high velocity. When coming up from idle speed, a smaller bore forces a higher fuel-air velocity for a given displacement. It is better to run a (I suggest vacuum secondary) four barrel with smaller primary bore sizes than a two barrel with larger bore sizes when torque is a concern. This allows the heavy vehicle to get moving without delay. Now, if your engine isn't going to be running high RPM (particularly with a load), a small two barrel will be a great solution. It will provide good fuel mileage and plenty of low RPM torque.

Re-jetting will not solve the loss of low-RPM torque that slow velocity of the fuel-air mixture causes. Main jets really serve best to set cruise-speed mixture ratios. The accelerator pump is what is primarily providing fuel during acceleration.

 

I put some pictures of the carburetor:

 

thanks again for the comments and contributions, I understand that the carburetor does not work because it is very big for a 292?
I would like to not have to spend a lot now since I have all the restoration ahead. That would be appropriate carburetor.
to see if I'm slowly getting more photos, also I have a post open to the restoration of the bodywork.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...ford-f100.html

 

some photo more:

the dealer had it cleaned and polished, but I comentais that this is not recommended:

this is change. no overdrive:

 

That carburetor will work well for now. You can keep your eye out for a smaller one whenever the price is right.

 

engine images:

 

Capello, the ID 9T J along with the 1.23 makes it's origin on a 1969 truck pickup with 390.

 

The engine looks in good condition, it is fine for your truck..

Is that the oil pump drive sitting in the valley? It's missing a piece that prevents it from coming out of the pump when you pull the distributor out.