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Chip Interchange
I just picked up a 2001 Dually and want to swap my chip from my 2000.
Both are DPC-422. NVK4 in 2000 and PMT2 in the 01, both auto's.
Anyone know if it will just swap over or will I need a re-burn?
Here's the new one. 01 Lariat LE, 147,000 on her. I'm going to swap everything after market over to it and the 02 that is my car.
Both are DPC-422. NVK4 in 2000 and PMT2 in the 01, both auto's.
Anyone know if it will just swap over or will I need a re-burn?
Here's the new one. 01 Lariat LE, 147,000 on her. I'm going to swap everything after market over to it and the 02 that is my car.
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Truck looks great! Congrats. Switch it over and see what happens 
I'm fairly certain that the PMT strategies are "better" than the NVK strategies though. You may find that you would prefer new calibrations. I'd recommend you call Bill or Jay to see what they recommend. Won't hurt anything to try it out though.
I'm fairly certain that the PMT strategies are "better" than the NVK strategies though. You may find that you would prefer new calibrations. I'd recommend you call Bill or Jay to see what they recommend. Won't hurt anything to try it out though.
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I figured that I better jump in here and clear the air before somebody gets frustrated about not being able to get an answer.
The chip is 100% compatible between both vehicles as long as a 4-bank chip such as a TS Performance or DP-Tuner F5/6 is in question. Should you be talking about a Banks, Western Diesel, Superchips, or similar single bank chip, then no.
As for PMT1 (which is likely on any multiple-position chip that has been produced for a DPC-422 truck since the mid-late 2000's) being "better" than NVKx, that is a totally subjective call and I've run into quite a few instances in which PMT1 is a pain in the *** (mostly while towing). Some people just don't like quirks that one or the other has. Without spending a lot of time comparing the differences (because usually whatever I type out is all for naught anyway), I'll leave it at that.
There's no reason for new or newer tunes if you like the way the 2000 drove with the chip. The new truck (to you) will behave the same way as the old one.
The chip is 100% compatible between both vehicles as long as a 4-bank chip such as a TS Performance or DP-Tuner F5/6 is in question. Should you be talking about a Banks, Western Diesel, Superchips, or similar single bank chip, then no.
As for PMT1 (which is likely on any multiple-position chip that has been produced for a DPC-422 truck since the mid-late 2000's) being "better" than NVKx, that is a totally subjective call and I've run into quite a few instances in which PMT1 is a pain in the *** (mostly while towing). Some people just don't like quirks that one or the other has. Without spending a lot of time comparing the differences (because usually whatever I type out is all for naught anyway), I'll leave it at that.
There's no reason for new or newer tunes if you like the way the 2000 drove with the chip. The new truck (to you) will behave the same way as the old one.
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From what my chip provider told me it should work for you. Depending who did your chip it may be using pmt based tuning. Three of the tuners I have had so far use pmt based tunes, my computer is a NVK5 DPC-422. I have a spair NVK3 DPC-422 I was told by my tuner that I could use my spair for troubleshooting because it is the DPC-422 is what mattered. I could have misunderstood but I don't think so. Others here may know better.
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I figured that I better jump in here and clear the air before somebody gets frustrated about not being able to get an answer.
The chip is 100% compatible between both vehicles as long as a 4-bank chip such as a TS Performance or DP-Tuner F5/6 is in question. Should you be talking about a Banks, Western Diesel, Superchips, or similar single bank chip, then no.
As for PMT1 (which is likely on any multiple-position chip that has been produced for a DPC-422 truck since the mid-late 2000's) being "better" than NVKx, that is a totally subjective call and I've run into quite a few instances in which PMT1 is a pain in the *** (mostly while towing). Some people just don't like quirks that one or the other has. Without spending a lot of time comparing the differences (because usually whatever I type out is all for naught anyway), I'll leave it at that.
There's no reason for new or newer tunes if you like the way the 2000 drove with the chip. The new truck (to you) will behave the same way as the old one.
The chip is 100% compatible between both vehicles as long as a 4-bank chip such as a TS Performance or DP-Tuner F5/6 is in question. Should you be talking about a Banks, Western Diesel, Superchips, or similar single bank chip, then no.
As for PMT1 (which is likely on any multiple-position chip that has been produced for a DPC-422 truck since the mid-late 2000's) being "better" than NVKx, that is a totally subjective call and I've run into quite a few instances in which PMT1 is a pain in the *** (mostly while towing). Some people just don't like quirks that one or the other has. Without spending a lot of time comparing the differences (because usually whatever I type out is all for naught anyway), I'll leave it at that.
There's no reason for new or newer tunes if you like the way the 2000 drove with the chip. The new truck (to you) will behave the same way as the old one.
I'm I correct in thinking that a TS style chip written for DPC-422 will work properly in any PCM that is DPC-422 regardless of calibration code?
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From what my chip provider told me it should work for you. Depending who did your chip it may be using pmt based tuning. Three of the tuners I have had so far use pmt based tunes, my computer is a NVK5 DPC-422. I have a spair NVK3 DPC-422 I was told by my tuner that I could use my spair for troubleshooting because it is the DPC-422 is what mattered. I could have misunderstood but I don't think so. Others here may know better.
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I just picked up a 2001 Dually and want to swap my chip from my 2000.
Both are DPC-422. NVK4 in 2000 and PMT2 in the 01, both auto's.
Anyone know if it will just swap over or will I need a re-burn?
Here's the new one. 01 Lariat LE, 147,000 on her. I'm going to swap everything after market over to it and the 02 that is my car.
Both are DPC-422. NVK4 in 2000 and PMT2 in the 01, both auto's.
Anyone know if it will just swap over or will I need a re-burn?
Here's the new one. 01 Lariat LE, 147,000 on her. I'm going to swap everything after market over to it and the 02 that is my car.
If it were me, I'd just swap the PCMs so the PHP chip stays with the NVK4 and ends up in the LE. However I see that Cody says the chip will work with either module so I guess you are fine either way.
Side note: If either of your trucks have a PTO trans, then the high idle circuit won't work when your PCM is re-installed. All you have to do to re-activate that circuit is drive around for about 1/2 to 1 mile and try it again. That's how long it takes for the PCM to figure out a PTO trans is installed and then it will allow the high idle feature to function.
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Nice LE...I've seen a few around here but they were short bed models...I think the long bed version looks better myself.
If it were me, I'd just swap the PCMs so the PHP chip stays with the NVK4 and ends up in the LE. However I see that Cody says the chip will work with either module so I guess you are fine either way.
Side note: If either of your trucks have a PTO trans, then the high idle circuit won't work when your PCM is re-installed. All you have to do to re-activate that circuit is drive around for about 1/2 to 1 mile and try it again. That's how long it takes for the PCM to figure out a PTO trans is installed and then it will allow the high idle feature to function.
If it were me, I'd just swap the PCMs so the PHP chip stays with the NVK4 and ends up in the LE. However I see that Cody says the chip will work with either module so I guess you are fine either way.
Side note: If either of your trucks have a PTO trans, then the high idle circuit won't work when your PCM is re-installed. All you have to do to re-activate that circuit is drive around for about 1/2 to 1 mile and try it again. That's how long it takes for the PCM to figure out a PTO trans is installed and then it will allow the high idle feature to function.
No PTO trans in either, unfortunately. I'm going to swap the trans between the trucks anyway. The old truck has 5k on the trans, the new appears stock and probably a mechanical diode in it. Should make for fun holiday weekend.
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Maybe the smog stations have a better scan tool? 
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I don't know if they can, but they try. I currently don't let them touch any of my vehicles, but don't know how long I will be able to keep it that way.
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