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Old Aug 24, 2013 | 04:35 PM
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solid axle swap

So I found a 70s truck at the junk yard today that has a solid front axle, Springs, radius arms, everything. wondering what else I'm going to need if I buy those things to make it bolt in as far as brakes and stuff.

Also wondering how tall it's going to be compared to my leveled 2wd setup so I'll know how much I'm going to have to lift the back.
 
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Old Aug 24, 2013 | 05:52 PM
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77 and older pickup tucks had a 33 inch wide frame, 78 and newer pickup trucks have a 36 inch wide frame. so if it is a 77 and older, the rear will not fit in a 78 and newer truck without a bunch of modification.
 
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Old Aug 24, 2013 | 05:57 PM
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I'm not trying to swap in the rear axle. It's just a D44 out of what I'm assuming is a 78-79 truck because it has disc brakes and it's 5 lug.

I can get the whole rig for $150 but the housing needs a rebuild because it's missing an axle. May be worthwhile to hold off and find a complete one.
 
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Old Aug 25, 2013 | 01:56 PM
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I expected a few more responses here. From what I've gathered, I'll need a complete d44 front axle, matched gears front and back, springs and radius arms. Am I missing anything?
 
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Old Aug 25, 2013 | 02:06 PM
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There's a track bar on the front of that too isn't there? Or is that just with leaf springs? I've never done one on a half ton but I did it on my 3/4 ton.

Also, I wouldn't be afraid to get a front end that needs work, because you should probably rebuild it anyway so you don't have to tear it apart later. It's easier to do out of the truck.
 
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There's a track bar on the front of that too isn't there? Or is that just with leaf springs? I've never done one on a half ton but I did it on my 3/4 ton.

Also, I wouldn't be afraid to get a front end that needs work, because you should probably rebuild it anyway so you don't have to tear it apart later. It's easier to do out of the truck.
it's missing one of the axles. That's what scares me. All the spindle stuff is there though, even the brakes. It has the tie rods too but not sure if my stock pitman arm will hook up right or not.
 
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Old Aug 25, 2013 | 04:04 PM
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Put chromoly shafts in it and be done with it. You definitely won't break them then. Otherwise, just order another shaft. $150 is dirt cheap for all of that anyway.
 
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Originally Posted by Jarryd
I'm not trying to swap in the rear axle. It's just a D44 out of what I'm assuming is a 78-79 truck because it has disc brakes and it's 5 lug.

I can get the whole rig for $150 but the housing needs a rebuild because it's missing an axle. May be worthwhile to hold off and find a complete one.
i was not talking about the rear axle either.

77 and older trucks have a 33 inch wide frame, 78 and newer trucks have a 36 inch frame.
you will need to fabricate new mounts to fit an older axle into a newer truck
 
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Originally Posted by tjc transport
i was not talking about the rear axle either.

77 and older trucks have a 33 inch wide frame, 78 and newer trucks have a 36 inch frame.
you will need to fabricate new mounts to fit an older axle into a newer truck
Got ya. I need to get back over and check what year that truck is.
 
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Originally Posted by tjc transport
77 and older pickup tucks had a 33 inch wide frame, 78 and newer pickup trucks have a 36 inch wide frame. so if it is a 77 and older, the rear will not fit in a 78 and newer truck without a bunch of modification.
You're only half right, the narrow frames you are thinking of are under the Highboy's, (read '73 - '77.5 4wd f-250's.) They had divorced transfer cases, and oddball front ends. They were low-pinion, closed knuckle, drum brakes and hard to find parts for. Not really a good candidate for a SAS.

The OP is using a D44 High pinion. If it's from a '78 - '79 f150, it will have the wedges for the radius arm cast as part of the axle tube. So the axle is only good if your doing a coil spring sas. Sometime in mid year '77 they changed to that design, previously they just had welded on wedges which can be simply cut off and the axle could be used for a leaf or coil swap.
 
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what do you plan on doing with this truck once its 4x4? what engine? if it were me, i'd be waiting for a complete axle, but I don't know how often stuff floats by in your boneyard.
 
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I'm not going to be wheeling it hard. Just need 4x4 to get back to some good hunting and fishing spots. I'll probably end up just doing a ttb setup just out of cost and poor in a 4" lift with some 35s and 4.56 gears.
 
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I love the ttb, no way would I run a solid 44 over a ttb . . . the benefits of ttb far outweigh the slight increase in strength with the solid.

with that said, the ttb will undoubtedly cost you more money. the lift bracket is not exactly cheap, and is not the easiest piece to fab in order to cut down on cost.

if you want a compromise between cheap and functional, leaf sprung high pinion d44 is the way to go.
 
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